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[-] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’d rather be under the rule of a hegemony that is composed of many different cultures and in the process of healing than one who is still actively genociding their minorities.

EDIT: Welp, I guess there is no war in Ba Sing Se. Ya'll are expert brigaders, well done.

[-] AdlachGyfiawn@lemmygrad.ml 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, what we're doing to Native Americans is really unforgivable.

[-] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Less than 10% of Native Americans can speak their native language. How many Uighers and Tibetans can speak theirs?

Have you been to a reservation? I remember one that we drove through in Arizona, the Hualapai. It wasn't just a desert, but a salt flat, utterly devoid of vegetation. Along the road, you had dilapidated pre-fabs, occupied of course by the victims that had been placed here. Not all reservations are as harrowing. I've visited the Navajo Nation, as well as Lakota and Ute reservations. Poverty is intense, and people do the best they can, but the reality is that these people had their lands stolen from them and were forced to the most marginal places in US, unsuitable for much agriculture and barely suitable for ranching.

There is no healing in these places, rather the victims of genocide are constantly blamed for their own poverty by the settler communities stole their land. The native peoples were devastated by covid due to the lack of healthcare resources as well.

Let's look at the Black American community as well. It was just 3 years ago that the US had its largest protest movement in history against the police killings of unarmed Black men. And what was the response by the government and media? After a moment of groveling, to take back all promises of reform and instead funnel even more money to an increasingly militarized police force, and to engage in a panicked sensationalized crime wave reportage. Police killings continue (1 in 20 homicides are perpetrated by the police), and the economic situation hasn't improved much for Black Americans since the Great Recession lead to a massive seizure of Black household wealth.

The situation in the US isn't healing, it's an oozing pustulate sore. There has been a failure to reinforce voting rights, and anything like reparations, even just targeted relief, is considered a joke and a non-starter in the halls of power. The only healing is in the minds of libs that think that donning Kente cloth and watching Black Panther constitutes absolution.

This of course is to say nothing of the murderous wars waged by the US in Iraq, Laos, Vietnam and elsewhere, and the genocides it co-sponsored in Guatamala and Indonesia. Or the general neo-colonial global financial mechanisms that lock the third world into permanent debt traps and underdevelopment.

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[-] Flyberius@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

If we pretend that what the USA does to its own people is acceptable, you still have to consider what it does to the rest of the world. I'm sorry, but in light of all the evidence, I see the US hegemony as evil. I also doubt the western media's portrayal of the Uyghur "genocide" and I don't agree that China is in the process of a Holocaust against its own people.

I'm lucky enough to have a job that puts me in contact with a lot of countries all over the global south of the world, and the general opinion from all of them is that China is a lot better prospect than old Western imperialism.

[-] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

The Chinese propaganda made to counter the satellite images, testimony from victims, and video evidence consists of some YouTubers visiting the same handful of uncomfortably smiling Uyghur families under the careful eye of Chinese censors and fluff pieces that amount to “nuh-uh”.

China is trying to erase the culture of people within their borders, again, and there is a long tradition of this forced assimilation in China. They are not pluralistic, and don't want to be, and their attitude towards non-chinese within their borders lead me to have very low expectations on how they will treat minorities outside.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If a grainy satellite photo that could be of literally anything and random testimony is your standard of evidence please stay the fuck away from any position of authority, everywhere.

China has 56 different major ethinicities and 5 different autonomous regions. The only racist here is you, for believing this shit and knowing nothing about the country. The two fastest growing ethnicities in China are Tibetan followed by Uighur.

their attitude towards non-chinese within their borders lead me to have very low expectations on how they will treat minorities outside.

"Chinese" is not an ethnicity you racist dumbass. It is a nationality. They are all Chinese.

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[-] Bobby_DROP_TABLES@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

How could anyone possibly have any doubts in the face of satellite images and eye-witness testimony?

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[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 year ago

Imagine being from Canada and bleating about China trying to erase the culture of people. Projecting much?

[-] duderium@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

Do a google image search for “Uyghur genocide.” Report back with any interesting images you find. This has been going on for twenty years now, surely there must be some pretty gruesome photos somewhere, comparable at least to the images of the Haitians deported by Biden to make room for Ukrainians in a totally not racist way?

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

You know the UN wrote a whole-ass report about XinJiang, right?

[-] rogrodre@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

I'd like to live in China too

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’d rather be under the rule of a hegemony that is composed of many different cultures and in the process of healing than one who is still actively genociding their minorities.

Source: Adrian Zenz zenz

China has 56 different major ethinicities and 5 different autonomous regions. The only racist here is you, for believing this shit and knowing nothing about the country. The two fastest growing ethnicities in China are Tibetan followed by Uighur.

[-] duderium@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

The Hui people are also a different kind of Muslim living in China but liberals haven’t learned about them yet.

[-] Starlet@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

Ya'll are expert brigaders, well done.

It's a frontpage post dumbass 💀 we're not brigading we're just commenting on the post that appears on our feeds

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[-] RonJonGuaido@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

how are the first peoples doing my guy?

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Which country are you talking about? The us? CAnada? Australia? There's so many countries actively genociding their minorities you need to narrow it down. Are the French still trying to put the Romani in camps? I haven't looked in to it in a while.

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

go look for Iraq's missing WMDs

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