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draw.io no longer open source since August 27, 2024 (github.com)

submitted 1 month ago by schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de to c/opensource@lemmy.ml

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[-] peregus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Open source means that the source code is...open, that everyone can view and use it, it doesn't mean that everyone can contribute to it. Or am I wrong?

[-] stochastic_parrot@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 month ago

People usually use the open source definition from the Open Source Initiative. That definition does have extra requirements:

https://opensource.org/osd

[-] peregus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Thanks for the clarification!

[-] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

Damn great username btw 👌

[-] wurstgulasch3000@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

What you a referring to is often called "source available"

[-] chebra@mstdn.io 1 points 1 month ago

@peregus yes, wrong. Being "open" doesn't mean just "readable". Imagine an open bird cage, not just an open book. It needs to be open to fly free.

[-] peregus@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago

The definition of the worlds open source seems to me that the source is readable by everyone. If you mean something different like @stochastic_parrot@sh.itjust.works said, then that's something else.

[-] chebra@mstdn.io 6 points 1 month ago

@peregus why do you think so? My view is backed by the two official definitions from OSI and FSF, plus the wording of specific licenses. Your definition is backed by... linguistics? While ignoring the second (open cage) meaning of "open"? Quite strange narrow definition, don't you think? And at odds with everyone who has been doing open-source for decades.

[-] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 6 points 1 month ago

That is usually referred to as "source available" and doesnt fall into the category of open source.

[-] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Then nvidia produced Open Source code then I guess?

(There were Repos, but everything was Copyrighted. Noone was technically allowed to use it afaik, but it was still there about some AI stuff back then)

[-] chebra@mstdn.io 4 points 1 month ago

@ReakDuck I'm sure nvidia would like that, this "open source" label is good for marketing. They just want to avoid being actually open. Have the cake and eat it, like many businesses do.