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Blatantly illegal.
But Biden won't step up and make Garland do his job.
Just throw it on top of the giant piles of reason "not trump" isn't enough to fight fascism.
We need people actually willing and able to fight, best case scenario for Biden is he's only one of those things.
And as president, he's clearly able to direct the DOJ, if he believes he shouldn't be able, that makes him unwilling to fight fascism.
musk is all in. He either goes to prison or trump wins.
I'm sure investigation starts immediately, but it won't get results until after the election.
What investigation is needed?
There's no way this is legal, it's what "blatantly illegal" means.
Like, if someone stripped naked, got a full automatic gun and walked around the White House busting off caps, it's "blatantly illegal" no investigation needs to be done.
This isn't like Musk went home and put pants on, he's still running around literally everyday till the election doing this.
You stop the person from committing the crime, and lock them up if there's reasonable suspicion they'll keep committing crimes.
Then when you've stopped more crimes from happening, you investigate the crimes that already blatantly happened, as well as looking for others.
Are you suggesting to lock musk up for up to a year without a jury convicting him? For an illegal lottery.
I know if Bill Gates was giving Democrat voters money the Republicans would spontaneously combust with rage
That rich people be held to the law???!!!!!
Reginald! Get the fainting couch, I need to go get my pearls so I may clutch them
No, just a fair trial for everyone.
I hate musk more than most and want to see him pay for his crimes, but arresting him for an illegal lottery, that's possibly a sweep stake, is out of the realm of what I believe in. What the user suggested sounds very fascist to me.
I'm glad you guys aren't in charge
Arresting people for blatantly breaking the law is fascist?
You sound like a "centrist"
That clears up any doubts I had, which is more than I hoped for.
You know, they do that to people every single day.
They hold people (remanded into custody) until a trial if they are a threat to the public.
They do it even if they're not a threat to the public. Some people wait years for a trial for trivial bullshit like weed possession.
People have gone to prison for less
Honestly, it sounds so bad it would proof the trump campaign right.
This is nothing compared to what many other African Americans have endured; what makes Musk so different?
I'm wondering if people are confused about your comment because they are missing the fact that Musk is literally an African American (American now, originally from Africa).
I think it doesn't fit their narative and it scares them a little.
*prove
Right about what, exactly? You do know this is a random person talking out of their ass on the internet about how they want the justice system to work, not reality.
Have no fear, there would be an investigation and a jury and conviction before Musk is behind bars (LOL JUST KIDDING, Musk is rich and will never face consequences)
Right about the radical left wanting to imprison political opponents. Without due process
Over an illegal lottery that could be argued to be a sweep
Radical left. I just love the delusion and hypocrisy from you weird incels
"But your honor, it could be argued those 47 people merely TRIPPED into my knife over and over. "
He stole a cigarette
Death sentence!
Your false equivalencies are showing.
What does this have to do with holding someone for a year before prosecution? I thought we were all assumed innocent until proven guilty, unless those cops really are bastards omgg!
So you wish what you criticise, as long as it hits the right people.
Extremists gonna extremist
And just like that, every accusation is a personal confession my friend; go home, you lost.
Jail and prison are 2 different things. You are held in jail, and may be able to be let out on bond depending on the charges against you, while you wait to receive your due process. You are not held in a prison until you are sentenced by a judge, following a conviction by a jury.
If your due process is violated and you are imprisoned without conviction, guess who would probably be interested in taking your case? Probably the ACLU.
If trump has proven anything, it's that wealthy Republicans can get away with literally anything in this country. Musk isn't going to prison, and I doubt he'll even see a courtroom over this.
Seriously... Trump staged a literal insurrection and is the top presidential candidate. They think Musk is going away for some voter bribery?
Why will Musk go to jail (ignoring this bribery)?
Just curious, why do you think Biden has to do anything? There's teams of people in charge of enforcing laws that don't need the president to tell them what to do. A CEO doesn't tell everyone under him what to do. He just expects them to do their job to the best they're able.
Because I know who Merrick Garland is and have observed his behavior over the last four years?
It's legit one of the few areas I agree with Biden:
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/09/white-house-frustration-with-garland-grows-00140813
Although I disagree with Biden on his path forward. Rather than replace Garland, his plan is to grumble to aids and adversers that Garland doesn't do what he wants, I believe Biden should have never appointed him in the first, and can offer no plausible explanation for why he hasn't been replaced other Biden is (say it with me) unwilling to fight fascism as hard as it needs to be fought.
Who would you replace him with?
What?
You want me to drop a specific name?
If you really want me to I can look at the DOJ top chain of command and find at least one that seems willing to do their job if you really wanted, but I'm not sure why you'd expect me to have a list of candidate prepared for you.
Do you want me to see if they have time for mock interviews too?
I could name drop it's for you if you think it'll help, but frankly I'm worried no one will reach back out...