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Kiryu has gone political

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[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

I dunno; it had such different vibes, beats, even messaging. It didn't feel like an edgy-for-edginess' sake nihilistic mess. I cared about the characters.

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago
[-] yoink@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

calling this a 'Japanese Approach' has some weird racial undertones that aren't really alleviated by doubling down

also pretending that Japanese media doesn't also have its fair share of edginess for its own sake is wild

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago
[-] yoink@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

I wanna take everyone on this site with good faith, and im gonna take Ulysses' advice and ask cos i might be misreading entirely and it's irresponsible of me to be making assumptions so I'm really sorry about that, but are you not saying that Japan was able to make 'GTA but Good' because they're Japanese (i.e. not steeped in western culture like the GTA team)? sorry if I misunderstood the 'Japanese Approach' comment

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

I didn't even mean to say Yakuza was "GTA but good" just that it has a completely different set of priorities and emphasises different things

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I was talking about one specific game, not the entirety of Japanese media. Is there someone here saying otherwise?

I thought "Japanese approach" meant the setting, not some general statement about Japan-made games.

[-] yoink@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

am I misreading this? you talked about how Yakuza and GTA being different, and then doublepepperoni chipped in that that's because it's like GTA but with 'a Japanese approach'

then you said that what you meant is the lack of edginess, the care for the characters, and then doublepepperoni said that that's what they mean by 'Japanese approach'

i took that to mean like, Japan was able to create 'GTA without being edgy' because the devs behind it were either Japanese or coming from Japanese culture

which maybe has its merits? but it does feel a little idk it feels iffy i dont know what to tell you

again, i get it if that's not actually what's being implied, i might be on edge because I've been dealing with a lot of privileged white people getting stuck in their 'Eastern Mysticism' stuff and I'm seeing issues where there are none, which would be valid

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

am I misreading this

You might be.

I read the same user's responses quite differently than you did.

again, i get it if that's not actually what's being implied, i might be on edge because I've been dealing with a lot of privileged white people getting stuck in their 'Eastern Mysticism' stuff and I'm seeing issues where there are none, which would be valid

I can only speak for myself here, but I only meant the Yakuza series in particular being refreshing and nice, not Glorious Nippon as a whole (I've ranted exhaustively about the anime industrial complex's increasing focus on pandering to otaku and how much that's harming creativity and smothering many potential projects before they even have a chance to start), so maybe it's best to just to ask the other user.

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