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[-] lil_tank@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago

Hot take if you can't distinguish a student's paper from a GPT generated one you're teaching in a deeply unserious place

[-] medgremlin@midwest.social 40 points 3 weeks ago

Tell me you haven't reviewed classmates' papers without telling me you haven't reviewed classmates' papers.

Some of the papers I've read from my classmates make me wonder how they got out of high school, let alone into university or (!!) medical school. There are a lot of people who cannot write decently to save their lives that are still somehow in academia.

[-] The_sleepy_woke_dialectic@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

This is me. Writing gave me so much anxiety in HS and I really should have started keeping a journal or something but I didn't. I devoured books as a kid but still I struggled with putting ideas on paper. Once got so upset at a boyscout event where I had to write an essay for a merit badge that I threw up.

I can write a comment or even effort-post just fine, and I can type 100 wpm, it's just something about structured writing that makes me feel Ill.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I can write a comment or even effort-post just fine, and I can type 100 wpm

Sure, because these are things that meaningful and worth the effort for you.

it’s just something about structured writing that makes me feel Ill.

It's probably because the topic is contrived, the assignment is meaningless, and the point is filtering out people instead of education them.

[-] lil_tank@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Some of the papers I've read from my classmates make me wonder how they got out of high school,

Not beating the allegations about unseriouness

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Just to be clear, I'm totally shitposting

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

There are lots of people who are bad at long tedious multiplications but still work productively in math, science, engineering, etc.

That's the point of computational tools.

[-] medgremlin@midwest.social 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Generative AI like ChatGPT is absolutely useless for anything besides maybe making summaries. Humans use language as a default method of communication, and if you are trying to produce academic work, the onus is on you to learn how to use language effectively. These heaps of algorithms and marketing exclusively hallucinate and plagiarize, both of which are absolutely unacceptable in academia (and should be unacceptable in society at large, in my opinion.)

[-] Puffin@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

I don't think this is true, depending on the task they can be extremely hard to spot. You especially don't want to accuse a student of cheating using AI without very concrete evidence.

[-] propter_hog@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

This right here. GPT generated bullshit is so unhunan sounding.

[-] tweeks@feddit.nl 2 points 3 weeks ago

If you say that I assume you either only used older services or your prompt skills are lacking.

ChatGPT 4 is really advanced and can create long coherent fluid texts (with source references). You can also ask it to write as a student or any other target and it will match writing styles quite well.