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Obviously I’m not a fan of Dawkins. I haven’t read any of his work, but from the various clips and quotes of his I’ve seen over the years he strikes me as an incurious bigot with a blinkered worldview. But I have no reason to doubt that he is a smart man.

So it’s very funny to see him realize that he’s debating a genuinely delusional person, as Peterson makes some bizarre epistemological argument that dragons are literally real because we use the concept of predator as a shorthand for animals that kill other animals. Except Peterson seems to expand the definition of predator to “anything that can kill a person” when he argues that fire is a predator.

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[-] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago

an incurious bigot with a blinkered worldview

Yeah, that about sums it up. He has to go for the low-hanging fruit to shine intelectually. This is why he built his entire career on dunking on young earth creationists, it's something where he can wield his entire academic expertise against people who've built their view of evolution by walking backwards from the assumption that the biblical measurements for Noah's Ark must be taken literally.

So let's see what's going on here

"Is a lion a type of dragon?" curious-marx

"YES!" jbp

what the actual fuck

[-] PaX@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

Actual image from peterson-pill-dinner's 1999 book "Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief":

Check out the dergy :3

How did anyone take this man seriously lmao

Idk, I haven't read the book, maybe it makes sense somehow and we're gonna need to create a new category of super-genius in our ontologies and put Jordan B. Peterson in there, but it seems quite unlikely

[-] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

That's fairly run-of-the-mill esoteric quackery and i'm unfortunately not surprised that this shows up in a self help book. What's worrying is that at this time, he was still lecturing at a Canadian university and practiced as a licensed psychotherapist, and that both of that only stopped after he got cancelled, oh wait, he wasn't, he decided on his own to make a career as a professional transphobe instead because he liked getting fanmail from groypers so much.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There's a very, very fine line between discussing, like, how ancient mesopotamian creatures we gloss as dragons often combine features of many creatures, including lions. Or how lions and other predators are used to allegorically represent many different things in medieval art, ranging from supernatural evil, to actual lions, to the authority of kings, to the gentle mercy of Christ. On one side of that line is an analyssi of a common symbol or motif based on textual and artistic sources. On the other side is whatever the fuck Peterson is.

[-] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

When people occasionally argue that peasants didn't understand literal vs metaphorical, I've always found that hard to believe, but maybe Peterson is actually like that.

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