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‘We have to blow it up’: can never-Trumpers retake the Republican party?
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The new left party that forms in the wake of the Republican implosion will rise out of the growing union movement that is already organizing to address that fundamental problem.
At what point will voting for that new left party become optimal?
always has been
when they reach 33%
when Republicans reach 25%
when Republicans are literally gone
other
If you plan to wait until you can vote for them in a national election then you're missing the point.
The democracy you're looking for is built from the bottom up, starting with your coworkers.
The first vote you should be concerned with is a card check election to unionize your workplace.
In that case, same question, but for a small local race.
Same answer, smaller scale.
So then at what stage of unionization is it safe to support what would currently be a spoiler party?
By the time the union party exists the Republicans will have already collapsed into irrelevance.
Stop looking for excuses not to help before then.
So when Republicans are literally gone, then?
Allow me to reiterate in case you missed it the first time:
I don't disagree, but that was kinda avoiding my actual question.
That's because the question is not only entirely unrelated to the task at hand, it is a thought-terminating cliché that I refuse to take seriously.
The concept of "election spoilers" is designed to keep people from engaging with politics that lie outside the range of acceptable discourse dictated by the two-party system.
Now that anti-genocide politics is no longer acceptable to the two party system, it's long past time to stop taking the establishment seriously when it threatens you to support it or else.
So then maybe it's "always has been". ;-)
When they run candidates for lower offices in "safe" districts, and can win seats there. At that point, they can force the Dems into coalition building.
Or when the Republican party has about as much influence as the Libertarian and Constitution parties. Either/or.