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Donald Trump’s racist NYC rally was vile. It was also political suicide
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Will it really? Is there someone out there who didn't know until this event that he was a bigot and an awful person and is now going to change their mind?
You know what's crazy? That answer is almost certainly yes.
I live in a red area and more and more people are starting to see some cracks
As great as that is to hear, I have to wonder under what rock those people have been living up to now.
Honestly, I kind of get it.
I'm very attuned to keeping up with what is happening in the world, at least at a base level. The number of people I've met who just dont do that is staggering. The other day I ran into someone who didn't know what happened on J6. Maybe they were playing dumb, but I didn't think so.
The reason i kinda get it is because this shit is depressing. I would love to be able to just tune out everything political related and only see feeds relating to my hobbies and just be totally ignorant of how fucked everything is. I guess some people saw that opportunity and took it.
It's fatigue. If there were a turd-based fireworks show outside your house every night, eventually you just have to ignore it.
At first, exploding turds, I kinda want to see that. Eventually everything is covered in shit. That's sort of a problem. A few folks try to clean it up, but it's A LOT of shit. Your house is covered in shit. Your car is covered in shit. You go to the car wash and things improve... But your car is covered in shit again pretty quickly, so that felt like a waste.
Then someone asks you about that one time when a bunch of people broke into a building and let off shit fireworks everywhere. Sure that was new, but the nightly turd extravaganza still went off just the same. Plus the turd fireworks are always being set off in new and unusual places. I can't be expected to remember them all.
Tbh, I get that too. Another realization I've had, is that a lot of Americans are so caught up in things like working and trying to survive, that paying attention to politics or the world in general is the last thing on their minds.
Were they 5 years old or recently immigrated or something? Maybe it's because of proximity but I'm pretty sure even in Canada everyone has heard about it!
Some people just refuse to pay attention to politics.
Yep. I've seen folks avoid politics like I avoid football. They excuse themselves when someone starts talking about it, they change the channel if something about it comes on, and they just don't go to places on the internet where it's discussed.
I wasn't ever that bad, but I used to not go out of my way to look at politics and it was pretty easy to avoid. I was much happier as well. But it's important so I wade through it.
Millions and millions of people just don't vote.
In my neighborhood, I've seen some houses take down their Trump signs. Dunno if it means anything, but I don't think I had ever seen that before.
Ohhh don't you go giving me hope like that...
I live in a Southern city. I shop in nice stores that are advertised in Garden & Gun.
They are selling Reagan Bush ‘80 and Reagan Bush ‘84 swag.
That is a dog whistle to say “I’m not down with Trump, but it’s not because I’m not conservative”.
There are serious cracks.
Harris HQ did a lot of things right and Trump HQ got locked in either doubling down and becoming more pronounced fascist (like here) therefore risking moderate republican votes or becoming too boring and letting people see through their incompetence and Trump's senility when they aren't caught up blind from constant MAGAtation.
I live in a red state and I saw a jacked up truck flying a full size giant Kamala Harris flag the other day, my jaw dropped
It's always so interesting (or heartbreakingly depressing) for me to hear this. I have seen that to some extent where I live, although very tepidly. However, when I go visit friends and family in much more red areas I feel like I'm going into bizarro world. People are doubling and tripling down. It's like a weird arms race or something between trump and his sycophants as they desperately try to keep up with each other in terms of bigotry and just overall insanity and/or stupidity. I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that, in those areas, they ate this stuff up and asked for seconds.
It would make me incredibly happy if this was some sort of breaking point and it actually did open some eyes but having been there and seen the countless gigantic trump/Vance flags hanging from the bed of outrageously lifted pickups, I just don't see it.
Yeah, the "political suicide" bit is immediately questionable. The fact that this race is even close has destroyed any remaining shreds of faith in my fellow Americans.
Trump could go up in stage and rant about black people, using the hard-R; he could repeat the sexist comments he's already famous for; he could probably even criticize Christians - none of it would move the needle. People voting for him aren't doing so because they think he's a great person; they're doing it because they hate liberals.
I think it would actually get him more votes.
I think they are voting for him because of the things they believe he is or stands for. Let's assume some people cherish kindness, then these people believe he is kind even if he's obviously not. They want to believe.
They are analogously not voting for Harris out of what they believe she stands for: destroying their values, installing communism, surrendering to the Soviet Union, all on day one. Because they want to believe.
This is also the thing I think proves that these people are stupid, although I really try to not assume these things.
Kamala is so much not a communist, she'd be considered economically right-wing in most of the EU.
8 years later, still riding that click-generating wave of “can you believe how racist this guy is?!”
Exactly my reaction.
Making people aware might give more of a push to people who otherwise wouldn't vote. It isn't about changing the minds of maga shits.
The first half of this skit will explain , like it is which multi-millionaire who does not respect you do you choose? The one lying that it is all fair, or the crybaby who says its not. Even with a Billion dollars Harris does not feel safe, and Trump has ro go so see Elon (who needs to be culled already). In all this voting third party is the crazy choice because?
Holy nonsense false equivalence, Batman. Harris's net worth (with her husband), is about $8 million, much of which comes from book sales, pensions, and the value of her home. I'll take the millionaire who earned her assets via public service, investment, and work over the supposed billionaire who earned his assets via loans from daddy, grift, fraud, lies, and a history of refusal to pay bills.
Because you started with a ridiculous lie to justify it, maybe? Or, alternatively, because it's stupid and self-defeating.
And the average american is a multi-millionaire? Like holy batman thats alot of words to say she can not relate to regular ppl. As in my Chapelle clip, one candidate embraces it, the other denies it. Guess who looks like an untrustworthy liar.
When has she ever denied being wealthy?
Ladies and gentleman, this is called a pivot, because I made an accusation and somehow @BlackBeard has something entirely different to take attention and ignore what I said.
Your exact words.
Ummms if you agreeing with me you are saying “Both Sides” then and well ofc agreeing with me.
You said Harris denies her wealth. When did that happen?
You're dodging a question you were called out on and don't have an answer for.
Since you think its a dodge, even going by other guy’s numbers she is worth 20x the average American Source. By the median, shes worth 100x more than the average American Source. Your response?
My response is that you dodged again. To be clear, the question you dodged was:
Thats a weird take, I said Trump embraced being rich and corrupt, and you somehow understood that to mean that I said Harris denies her wealth. No trolling, please tell me what I could have done to communicate better.
That's half of what you said:
Does she admit she takes money from questionable sources? I last saw Harris dancing with the (almost? Not sure) Billionaire Beyonce, asking for more money. Literally has 10000x the worth of the average American, in cash at that, for essentially an ad campaign but dig deep in your pocket to support her. As I said previously, I said “deny” not about her wealth, but that she obtained such wealth through questionable means.
The average net worth of a single person in their 60s (kamala's age) is about 1.5 million.
So take 8 million for Kamala and husband and 3 million for an average couple in the same age group.
I think that's significantly closer than any of the gop or third party candidates.
Besides, it's not like Kamala is trying to make it a secret (unlike trump, who consistently refuses to release documents related to wealth and assets)
Yep, that's the only difference between the two candidates. You nailed it!
(This is sarcasm. You're an idiot.)
Because Jill Stein is also a multimillionaire.