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Its not a thing about science if it were then we wouodnt see so many bullshit studies that attenpt to disprove climate change or how gas pollution doesnt exist.
Dont sit there acting like our science is untouched by politics and bad actors. You know damn well even peer reviewed studies can easily be made by malicious people
A reasonable skeptic is actually a smart one. And idiot will use absolute words or believe absolutely
Yeah maybe. But neither you nor the Brainworm driving the RFK Jr. skinsuit are reasonable skeptical. The Brainworm has decided that vaccines are bad, and is attempting to cherry pick much more data to try to back up his claims. And you are trying to say that behavior is valid and part of the scientific process, which it absolutely the fuck is not.
No where did i say his behavior is valid.. read again
The vaccines have been tested, reviewed and used in a majority of the population and reviewed more. All the data is there. How much more do you need?
Where is any data at all showing them to be ineffective or dangerous? Where?
Do you really think government agencies are faking and hiding data so that people can be injected with vaccines that don’t work? If so, why? What evidence is there for this? What motivation could you even speculate on?
No one is claiming scientists are perfect. The reason we know there’s some bad science out there is because the process works.
You don’t get to claim scientists are lying without showing some fucking evidence.
True, but it won't pass the test for implementation, or the test of time, and probably not the test of foreign authorities either.
All common vaccines have a degree of safety, that degree is not 100% but generally very close.
The degree of safety of common vaccines is well known, and also the danger of NOT taking them.
Being a so called "skeptic" is more likely to put you in greater danger than less, if it causes you to avoid vaccines that are recognized for their efficacy.
There is zero reasonable doubt that many people died or had permanent after effects because they were unvaccinated against COVID. The people preaching antivaxer idiocy about it are quacks.
The test of time would be reassuring if people wernt so easily brainwashed. Its been common knowledge that “little” of anything toxic may not show immediate damage and turns out in long term but that hasnt stopped the majority of people from accepting carcinogens in their food, etc.
For common vaccines that have an extensive history of studies, i agree. But for recent vaccines that were prematurely approved for emergency use it is still wise to be skeptic because of the sane reason as before, corruption in the academic studies.
It is still too recent to not acknowledge the potential unidentified risks. Vaccines or not, the logic applies to anything newly developed.
You sound like you're the one who is brainwashed.
Regarding toxic compounds that are used in some vaccines, the amounts are so minuscule that you breathe many times more more for instance quicksilver than you'll ever get from vaccines.
And for instance B12, an amazing vitamin, that helps the body get rid of toxins, contains cobalt as an essential part.
Although they were approved quickly, Covid vaccines were way more safe than not getting it. Not just barely, but by a factor of 1000. Mind you, I'm not saying safer than getting COVID, because that would be even higher.
I agree that generally it's advisable to be skeptic, but the advise is not to be skeptic AGAINST EVIDENCE!!
And especially not when your life is at stake.
RFK jr. is a moron, and that includes his view on vaccines.
Being skeptic is extremely important when it comes to claims without evidence, the more fantastic the claim, the more the need for evidence.
For some reason many of those antivaxer "sceptics" are religious, and believe the most outrageous nonsense in that regard too.
COVID vaccines have been given for almost 4 years now. How much more time do you need?
If the COVID vaccine kills me 30 years from now, I won't be too broken up about it.
So as a rando coming in here the key thing is the word reasonable. As buffalox pointed out these have been studied and approved by many agencies from many countries over a long time frame and studies for long term effects are still ongoing so its not like we aren't currently still working on things. So we are already at a reasonable level of skepticism. jfk junior is at an unreasonable I will search until data fits my opinion level.