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They’re all trying to do an end-run around democracy and society, it’s just a different level of power they believe they have.
Sov cits want it for themselves
These sheriffs want it for elections.
More dangerous, sure, but the same basic principle of “I can manipulatively read and misunderstand the rules so that they don’t apply to me”
Also both the constitutional sherriffs and sovcits grew out of the militia movement of the 80s and 90s. They are basically the same movement just different aspects of it.
Nope, these sheriffs do not "want it for elections", they want it for themselves. We're on the same side here and I'm sorry to be antagonistic but I don't agree with you excusing their behavior as principled in any way unless you also do it for sovereign citizens, because it is exactly the same thing: "the rules only apply to me when it's convenient."
Yes, I think you misunderstood what I meant, I think we’re saying the same thing.
They both are “manipulatively reading the rules” to make the rules seem say something that gives them more power than they have and zero responsibility to their neighbour, city, state or country
Same basic principle of “things mean what I want them to mean”
The way I see it, sovcits want it for themselves to have freedom to do what they want (which can include imposing on others). "Constitutional" sheriffs want it for themselves to expand their power over others because police can do very well under a fascist system (until they do something against the party and then disappear... Or someone more connected in the party wants their power themselves... Or someone less connected wants their power and can act before the better connections come into play).
I wonder how many of the ones who want a fascist system for their own power realize how much of a target getting that power puts on them from pretty much all sides.