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So just 4 days ago we had huge thread about how great she is because she criticized US imperialism and immediately after that she's actively participating in the same imperialism. Also her position on Ukraine remains afaik unchanged, still supporting that fascist and ecocidal imperial puppet. How it is even possible to reconcile, is she two different people or what?

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[-] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago

She's supports Ukraine because she blames Russia for the invasion and the ecocide.

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 32 points 1 day ago

She needs to be educated on the Maidan Coup and the US / UK fostering Nazis and Banderites there. What they did to their own people - bombing, murdering, erasing them for resisting fascism.

[-] CommCat@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago

My guess is that she is still surrounded by the same people that started her foray into the public eye. They are a bunch of euro socdems that are good on some issues but horrible on most, especially when it comes to countries that are enemies of the USA/West (Russia, China, DPRK, Iran etc...) Until I see her appear with someone like Prashad, I'm not gonna see her as some serious political figure.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago

What's the ecocide angle? I haven't heard about that.

This is the point when i start to seriously doubt her, because Ukraine comitted:

  • Ecocide along the front lines, by mass usage of depleted uranium and cluster mines

  • Another one by blowing up the Kakhovka dam

  • Officially a huge one by blowing up Nordstream, and you cannot even blame this on war (ofc we all know USA did it, but she probably should believe official version? i don't remember if she ever commented on that)

  • Potentially a nuclear ecocide when they bombed Zaporozhia plant several times. They planned to capture Kursk nuclear plant, and called for nuclear strikes on Russia.

So even without all the context of nazism and imperialism and taking on a flat value she should at least bothside the war from ecological point of view but she isn't, she's supporting the side which does way more ecological destruction. And added context don't work for Ukraine side also.

[-] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago

They will say they did all of those things in self defense as Russia invaded.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Especially blowing up Nordstream 5 months before Russian intervention, and we all know they love nuclear "self-defence" ecocides like in Japan or Bikini atoll or nearly in Zaporozhia but what does this have to do with reality?

[-] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago

There is a lot of environmental destruction brought with war and a very large chunk of Ukraine won't be usable for a long time.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago

Ahh, yeah. There's so many ways in which this is awful.

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