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So why did they win? (lemmy.sdf.org)
submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by HorseRabbit@lemmy.sdf.org to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

The majority of Americans who voted, at least in the swing states, have voted for the republicans. Why? Do the republican policies reflect popular opinion? Or is it that their vibes are more aligned with the public? Or maybe people are worse off now than they were 4 years ago and are hoping to turn back time? As a non-american I don't quite get it. People must think their lives will materially improve under the republicans, but why?

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[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 21 points 3 weeks ago

The real story here is that Trump won the popular vote.

Second time the Democrats lost the popular vote since 1992. Most likely, the Democrats will shift even more right. They shifted right after getting stomped in 1988.

[-] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah it would not surprise me at all if they took exactly the wrong lesson from this, but I think doing so would make it crystal clear that they're not operating in anything like good faith. The percentage of Republicans who voted for Harris was totally unchanged from the percentage who voted for Biden, and the traditional Democratic base just didn't vote for them. The rightward shift overwhelmingly hurt their electoral performance. If they move even further to the right, that's just an indication that they actually believe in those policies; they won't be able to hide behind the fig leaf of "strategic triangulation" anymore. Most of us here on Hexbear are aware of the fact that they actually want to feed immigrants and poor people into a meat grinder, but I'm at least hopeful that this might be the beginning of more ordinary people waking up to that fact.

[-] landlords_morghulis@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

Democrats (well both major political parties in the US) are capitalist and, as such, are standing on the conveyor belt of capital interest, which constantly moves to the right. They would have to seriously fight against the forces of capital in order to just appear to stay roughly in one place, which they do not. The last time there was any meaningful resistance to capital interest were the Keynesian reforms to get out of the Great Depression, but that was really only to keep capitalism on life support long enough to roll them back.

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