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Apple Quietly Introduced iPhone Reboot Code Which is Locking Out Cops
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GrapheneOS also has this. Not sure stock android includes it.
It does not. I don't have it on my Pixel 6. From other people's comments, it sounds like Samsung and other OEMs have added their version, though.
Yeah, can confirm Samsung has this. I have auto reboot configured.
Where would I find that setting? I have an S22 Ultra and I can't seem to find it. Unless my phone has fallen out of support...
It's under device care -> auto optimization in settings. You can also just search "restart" in settings and it should pop up.
Found it, thanks!
Thanks, didn't know of this function. In my A50s it's under Battery and Device Care
that makes me think that it's a different feature, and it reboots the phone every x hours regardless if it was unlocked
so this is a restart-on-schedule feature that can skip a restart on certain conditions
I've added this function manually using Automate (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.llamalab.automate).
You can trigger it to reboot on inactivity using some advanced parameters, but I've simply set it up to reboot at 3.30 AM every day, that way it's also clearing the cache.
This is how it looks like - the 5 min wait timer is to prevent a reboot loop if the phone is still booted up at 3.30 again.
That seals the deal for me on rooting my pixel. I've been hesitant about rooting ever since I bricked an extra galaxy s3 and nearly bricked my (main device) Verizon galaxy s5
If you have a factory pixel, you don't need to root. You can unlock bootloader and install a rom that has it (calyxos or grapheneos I know have them). You can root, but you don't have to.
Putting graphineos onto my pixel was the easiest thing I've done in a long time, the installer is just pressing buttons and waiting for the next button to be ready pretty much.
How does it work for stuff like bank apps? Do they freak out about it?
And does it require unlocking the bootloader? I prefer to keep mine locked if possible.
My bank app works fine and I can use the NFC chip for payments as well, it might pay to search up your bank name and graphineos to see if anyone's had an issue, that's what I did to make sure.
You have to unlock it to install but once installed they prefer you lock the bootloader back up again.
Same question as catloaf but with less ambiguous things like banks: does Netflix, safety net, fox sports Australia and Google pay work with graphene os?
My bank apps all work (though YMMV.) Ticket app worked (AXS.) I haven't actually used google pay or google wallet for anything to know if they work.
Authy is the only miss I've found and it wouldn't have mattered if i hadnt been caught in the midst of migrating to another app for that when they decided to be assholes.
Google wallet doesn't work at all, but if your bank offers its own NFC payment system then that should work.
The only app that I've had an issue with was uber, that refused to install from either play store or aurora store, but beyond that I haven't had any issues. Just search graphineos and the app you want to check, or check out their forum.
GrapheneOS is the easiest ROM install bar none. Get the en browser (needs to be chrome-based) to the install url, hook the phone cable, and let it run. It's super straightforward. It's not rooting though, you don't get root access by default.
Wow things sure changed about Android roms! I still remember how difficult it was to try to simply install a rom through Knox
samsung devices are still a different beast, they have their unique little everything and the standard tools don't work there
You can add the function easily using https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.llamalab.automate, no root needed.
It's either root or having access to my bank accounts. 🙄
Change banks.
Have a 20 year mortgage with that bank so no.
calyxOS has it too.
Didn't know that. Just been manually rebooting. This is is much easier and more secure. Thanks!
Sure, glad to help. We need every bit of help against the powers that be at this point.
Agreed! When everything is actively against us, we must band together against everything.
Fighting centralized power with decentralized approach!
It does, labled "Auto Restart", but only when "preformance issues detected" or time specified. Apple is quite late on this feature.
This is rebooting for a different reason. That auto reboot just kind assumes that the software on your phone sucks and it needs to reboot to stay running fast.
Graphene and now iOS auto reboot for security/privacy reasons.
The end result is the same though. First phone unlock is the one a bad actor can't get through.
It's not the same.
On an iPhone it'll reboot after X hours of no use. That means it could go months without rebooting and the day after it's in police hands it reboots.
The feature you're talking about would need to be set to reboot every day at a specific time. Now you personally have to deal with that. Also until you unlock the phone as well there could be reduced functionality making it annoying.
Very different.
Not that hard to deal with honestly. Rebooting at night which I'm sleeping does not reduces any functionality, cuz I'm not using it. If someone needs to find me during the night he better call me cuz I won't wake up by notification which is also suppressed by DND. Yeah it is not design for security but a solution better than none.
Furthermore, rebooting the device periodically is good for security, especially for non-persistent fileless malware.
on GrapheneOS it is labeled auto reboot and it specifically says "automatically reboot device if it hasn't been unlocked in xxx hours" with a default of 18.
This is clearly the Samsung interface and thus not stock Android. Doesn't even really look like the same feature.
Does that stop alarms from going off in the morning?
depends on your phone. at first encryption was done in an all-or-nothing style, so system startup couldn't complete without a first unlock. then android started using file based encryption, which was used selectively, encrypting certain things so that they are accessible without an unlock.
the best way to figure it out is to set a new alarm 10 minutes from now, reboot your phone manually, and see whether the alarm goes off
I'm on S21FE and it does NOT.
Samsung does too but I've not set it up as such. Instead, it automatically locks the device from biometric unlocks every 24 hours until you login with your pin again.