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[-] xapr@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 week ago

You can sign up for Proton mail without providing email or phone number, as far as I recall.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Nope. Try doing it through a Tor node.

[-] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago
[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

No shit, Sherlock.

[-] red@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago

you still can, it was a bug in past that they fixed long ago

[-] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

it's not a bug and it's still not possible, it's for tracking who created the account of course.

[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago

It is possible, I just signed up for one recently while using Tails. I was not required to use either email or phone number. Stop spreading misinformation.

[-] refalo@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Doesn't work for me: https://0x0.st/Xkw4.png

Maybe it only works for some people.

[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago

They said any service gets shut down. I registered a ProtonMail account without email or phone number. Proton also does not cooperate with anyone but Swiss authorities. It is obviously still possible.

You can also register without one on cock.li, if you don’t mind them being edgy middle-aged teenagers.

[-] refalo@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

All services do eventually shut down, possibly moreso for higher privacy services, you might just disagree on when.

[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago

That is your argument? “Time destroys all things”? Really?

Yeah, when you think about it, one day the sun will explode and all these email services that don’t require backup emails will shut down. You got me there, champ.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Try it now. Load up a tor tab in the Brave browser, and try signing up for an email without providing any info.

[-] red@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

yes I just did, not brave but tor browser and I was able to create account

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

I just loaded up a Linux vm with Brave, and tried to sign up in a tor window. It requires a verification email to sign up.

Maybe you’re using a browser or OS that it’s tracking.

[-] red@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

yeah I'm using tor browser, also don't forget you can get fingerprinted even on tor

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

Totally. You should assume yours is being tracked if they’re not asking for verification.

[-] red@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

fingerprinting is not tracking, personally im fine with them fingerprinting they just don't want to give unlimited free stuff for anyone

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Then you’re supporting diminished privacy.

[-] red@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

that is what you would say if you dont understand how fingerprinting works and how to actually be private

[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago

It does not, this is misinformation. Do not believe this person, I recently did it on Tails while using Tor and did not need email or phone number.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I just tried it yesterday. Definitely required an email for verification.

[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

I just tried it on my phone literally thirty seconds ago, after reading your comment, without using Tor or a VPN. Verification was done with a captcha. No email required.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

You know what would be a really easy way to confirm if Proton is sometimes requiring email verification? Just look on their own website, where they openly say they do it.

The question isn’t whether they’re doing this. It’s whether they’re actually doing it to “prevent spambots,” or if they’re employing it when they need more info to track who’s signing up.

[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

OK, let's check then.

You can usually sign up anonymously without giving an email address or phone number, although we may require human verification in some cases.

Source

I've signed up on Tor and the clearnet, and both times without providing an email address or phone number. Meaning if you keep running into that problem, it's a sign that something you're doing or have done is causing them to think you aren't somebody that should be signing up without verification. Either way, the fact remains that most people aren't having this issue.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Given the context, I would be most concerned that they’re not asking for verification when they have some way you’re already being tracked.

[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago

I did that recently while using Tails, and it let me register without either an email or phone number. This is misinformation.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I don’t know what to tell you. Tried it yesterday, and it required an email to verify.

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