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White House Says Democrats Who Oppose Weapons To Israel Are Aiding Hamas
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I was thinking more like the well-meaning libs who oppose war or want to see military aid to Israel being stopped.
Being called a Hamas-sympathiser is going to be a slap in the face and I think it's going to make them realise how often Hasbara trolls resort to claiming everything is Hamas. It would be hard to go back to believing the narratives coming out of Israel after a wake-up call like that.
Bullying works. This isn't going to make them break from the Liberal Party, its going to make them break from Palestine.
If liberal media can reform Dick Cheney and George Bush inside eight years, they can bring Libs around on Israel within a week of a ceasefire.
I'd say that the election results are a pretty clear indication that bullying like this, in an abstract way, doesn't work at all and that it didn't make people break with Palestine but it made them break with the Democrats.
Imagine you're a well-meaning lib who is pretty progressive and you just want to see a stop to the genocide. You've always been anti-war because war is bad. You think you can change the system from the inside and that the Democrats are capable of reform.
Then the Democratic Party leadership calls you a terrorist because you oppose war (progressives like these are usually pretty strongly opposed to Hamas and view them that way).
I just don't see many people packing up their anti-war, anti-genocide stance in the face of that bullying. I see far more people waking up to the reality of how far right the Dems have shifted and how unwilling they are to reform, of how incapable the whole system is of reform. I just don't see these people facing slander like that any then being like "Welp, I guess I'm pro-war now and it turns out I had it completely backwards on genocide"
What makes you think that a ceasefire is on the cards?
I see plenty of liberals in Houston doing just that. "It's just not a winning issue" and " is too important" get bandied about so regularly...
Eventually Israel runs out of gas. Their economy is already in the tank and they've got a huge domestic labor crisis.
Also, with the courts hostile to Netanyahu, it doesn't look like Forever War is going to forestall his legal problems any longer.