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See the fun part is that we will know who is right soon enough. This isn't some philosophical debate here where there's no clear answer. Russia will win the war, Europe will be stuck dealing with a failed state in Ukraine and a bunch of angry fascist, while getting fucked economically by the US. People like you will be forced to grapple with reality at that point. So enjoy being smug while you can, those days are numbered.
Out of pure interest what does "winning the war" mean for Russia?
Ukraine clearly described what it considers as a win, and it's clearly very unlikely to achieve it; reclaiming all of it's internationally recognized borders, you know as guaranteed by Russia and US when Ukraine gave away their nukes.
But Russia's win was meant to be a parade through Kyiv on the 3rd day or so? Then that got corrected to finally capturing the oblasts they already proclaimed Russia two years ago? Now it might require also reclaiming the part of their actual country they lost, I guess? Your beloved land of social justice never really clearly defined what it's territorial objectives are, but yeah, it's not even a war, since they still land people in prison for calling it that so what's to be won.
Not to mention loosing/crippling half a million of their citizens to size the poorest but fossil fuel rich parts of Ukraine plus a bunch of cities they leveled to the ground, with an estimated 1 million casualties of on both sides "for peace". Oh, and a side of land fertile in mines. Or creating as you describe "a failed fascist state", to... secure their border? Additional 1,340km of hard to defend border with NATO in the north? Which one is the win part here?
And mate, seriously, I was born in a collapsing "socialist republic", and watched it being rampaged by neolibs with explosion of every possible pathology that causes.
It's pitiful you wish such hardships upon any people, particularly for someones imperialist gains. And laughable you think what you are describing is the worst possible option for central and eastern Europe. Most of the region has seen Russian occupation, it's in the living memory of our societies, which is exactly why things will not go the way you expect. The worse the situation, the stronger the resistance will be. We're Slavs, we bask in suffering and fighting against the odds, it's the one thing we know.
Wining the war means destroying the fighting capacity of the AFU, and ensuring that whatever is left of Ukraine remains a neutral state that can't threaten Russia and that will never be part of NATO. Also, Ukraine never had nukes. USSR stationed nukes on the territory of Ukraine, but Russia became the inheritor state of USSR.
You don't seem to understand how wars of attrition work. Everybody who was actually motivated to fight Russia signed up for the army in the first couple of years. Most of them are now dead. At this point, 75% of people fighting are conscripted against their will as Bloomberg reports. Most people left in Ukraine do not care whether it's under Russian influence or not at this point, they just want the war to end. These deranged fantasies of yours regarding some kind of guerrilla warfare are never going to happen.
It's hilarious how people like you just guzzle propaganda uncritically. Here's what the only western source that shows any methodology has to say, far cry from your fantasies I'm afraid https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/20/casualties_eng
In fact, if you look closely at the chart, you'll see that casualties have dropped off significantly in the past year of the war because AFU fighting capacity has been degraded to the point where it's barely a functional fighting force. Don't take my word for it though, here's BBC saying that AFU is on a verge of collapse.
How do you think that's going to work out for Europe when the hardcore fascists in Ukraine decide that you lot betrayed them?
Same, the difference is that I'm not licking liberal boots the way you are.
I don't wish any hardships on anyone. That's just you projecting your own psychopathic tendencies on others. This war was completely unnecessary, and it happened because NATO decided that it would ignore Russia's security interest. Support from people like you was crucial in this. Now you get to reap what you all sowed and I have zero sympathy for you.
You're all going to be at each other's throats as your economies continue to unravel. That's what's actually going to happen as it always has throughout history. But you keep on believing whatever you need to believe until that happens.
Works great since it got from "they bombard Donbas" (propaganda bullshit btw) to "dron debris" blowing up anything from refineries, factories 1500km deep inside, buildings in Moscow and bunkers in Kurks.
Yeah, OFC, Russia and USA negotiated their handover for 6 years and paid for it just to larp.
How would you know that? Spoke to any in real life? I work with them by the hundreds in Poland, assist massive trade union in Ukraine. You're delusional.
You don't know the first thing about the history of the region, or Ukraine, dont you?
The methodology is social media + public registries. How it matches the oft repeated Russian complaint of the dead being signed off as simply missing? At this point if you started reading "mil bloggers" directly it'd be an improvement for your level of propaganda detachment. If it were 100k lost Russian army would be pretty massive now taking in 30k/month according to it's own statements, wouldn't it? So why are most if not all observable bases on NATO borders half empty? We even see that in shop sales around Kaliningrad.
Yeah, not like there's a lag in announcements and very clearly there's massive meat-wave attacks going on for the last half a year.
Why would they if they are supplied by "European fascist states" and also "have all died already, it's all forced conscription". They are forced to fight, dead, and resentful if not supported at the same time? It really makes sense in your head?
Yeah, also a very highly decorated ~~navy seal ~~ specnaz sniper... I'm more likely to believe you're a dog with the level of detachment you're displaying here.
You just said entire countries/Europe a comment ago, but I guess economic hardships or whatever that was meant to be are going to be extremely selective? You know that staff you spill out makes no sense even internally?
How does Russia consider the ones it gave to Ukraine?
So much for pretending you're from here. And yeah, check out any history of the states in the region.
Why would you lie about something that's been extensively documented in western media?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs even CNN covered this https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296
Let me know when that happens.
Yeah you should read up on that instead of showing what an ignoramus you are in public.
I know that because 75% of people are being forced into fighting. If you think that people who fled from fighting into Europe are gonna come back and fight you're dumber than I thought, and that's saying something. That fact that you call me delusional is really cherry on top. These people are just as likely to go back and fight as trolls like yourself. Y'all have a big mouth on you, but you'll never put yourself in danger. You're just chihuahuas.
One of us doesn't, and it's not me. Ukraine was cobbled together by USSR, and over half of Ukraine is ethnically Russia. Absolutely fucking embarrassing that you don't know this.
Meanwhile your methodology is pulling numbers out of your hairy ass.
cope harder
People who were willing to fight an actual army died. Scumbags who are hardcore criminals haven't died. They're the ones taking bribes, and gang pressing others to fight.
You've already demonstrated that you can believe the dumbest shit, so yeah makes sense.
What are you even trying to say here dumbass?
The ones that Russia tried to make work for 8 fucking years with Minsk 1 and 2 that the west now came out and said was just giving time to arm Ukraine ?
Learn some Slav history instead of trolling here dumbass. It's all Slavs fighting each other.
Anyways, you keep on believing whatever you like. Reality will set in soon enough and then you'll have to grapple with it. Have fun with that.