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[-] davel@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

Either Communism is a realistic political system that can be implemented with humans as we are, including all of our base animal impulses

That is precisely what it is.

or it’s a fantasy that requires humans to achieve a higher level of consciousness first or something.

That is precisely what it is not.

I think there’s ~0% chance you’re interested in understanding dialectical materialism or historical materialism, but I’ll link to this anyway: Elementary principles of philosophy

[-] m_f@midwest.social -2 points 3 days ago

I agree on what it is and isn't, but that's the counterpoint to your statement that communism and imperialism don't mix. My assertion is that imperialism is a part of human nature, and so either you acknowledge that communism and imperialism do mix, or that communism isn't realistic for humanity.

I think there’s ~0% chance you’re interested in understanding [..]

It's hard to convey over text on the internet, but I am actually interested in better understanding the world. As much as I think places like Hexbear are silly, it's useful to encounter worldviews so alien. I really hate low-effort "dunking" even if it's something I agree with, because you can't learn anything from that and it loses all nuance.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

I will second Elementary Principles of Philosophy, it's the best primer on Historical and Dialectical Materialism, which is why it's in my Introductory Marxist Reading List.

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