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[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 152 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Don't end it Anon, you just struck it rich my dude. The police tear apart your parents home looking for a nonexistent meth lab run by a nonexistent student and a photo as evidence which is a top search result?

The police union basically just handed your family 10 Million Dollars after a brief lawsuit against the city.

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 18 points 11 hours ago

I don't think cops are liable for damages even in a case like this.

Probable cause is a whole ass bitch.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

10M was a stretch for sure, but a family in Jolliet recently got 2.9M USD for the police raiding the wrong house and quite a while back Dr. Lawrence Crosby got 1.25M USD for the police arresting him for the theft of his own car based on an anonymous tip, which is about as much "probable cause" as this case.

[-] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 hours ago

A brief lawsuit that will only exist if you are wealthy or can find contingency representation.

[-] bassomitron@lemmy.world 113 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Man, that might happen for a high profile family/person. For average people in many places in the US, they'll be lucky if the police even pay out to cover damages to property, nevermind anything else.

Edit: and yes, I know this is just a green text and not a real story.

[-] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 12 hours ago

And anywhere outside the US, home searches are nearly always legal since they must be signed by a judge. And judges rarely rule against their own.

Over here in Germany, where the inviolability of the home is in the constitution, the suspicion of any crime suffices for getting your home searched. This includes filesharing, spraying graffiti or insulting someone on the internet by calling them a dick. Plus, any resulting damages are only paid if you are found not guilty.

[-] cheers_queers@lemm.ee 8 points 12 hours ago

calling someone a dick is a crime??

[-] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

https://archive.is/RsyNC [unpaywalled Washington Post link]

Some reactions:

The text above reads: "Special Police Unit Wall and Color"

The text below: "Andy, you are such 1 dick."

Later the police arrived:

But again:

And the cops came back:

But finally:

By the way, the case was finally dropped. Only because the outrage made them not pursue it though. Courts would have likely ruled this was an insult.

[-] bassomitron@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

That's wild that insults are a crime there, I never knew that. Quite funny back and forth, though. I laughed at how the writing got more and more chaotic haha

As for your other comment, the US also requires a judge to sign off on a warrant for raiding/searching someone's home. Some judges are more strict about it than others, and the more high profile you are, the more the judges tend to be stricter with approving them.

However, if you're in a poorer area and you're not rich, it's not unheard of for home raids to occur quite liberally. Hell, one of my old coworkers got raided a few years ago due to the police going to the wrong address (the intended house was across the street). And no, the police didn't give shit for compensation and his family couldn't afford to take it to court. He also just didn't want to deal with potential repercussions of the police harassing him afterwards since he's an immigrant (here legally, but yeah, lots of people here don't care about that...).

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 44 points 19 hours ago

They'll be lucky if the police don't kill them in the raid.

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 17 hours ago

Very easy to tell whether they will get killed during the raid, simply follow the Standard Police Academy Appropriate Force chart:

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 24 points 19 hours ago

There are tons of examples counter to your claim.

A lot of the settlements probably don't even get reported on at the request of the city in question.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 12 hours ago

Yeah, 10 million might be a stretch. But the city I used to work in would immediately settle for 250k for something like that. Lawyers are expensive, and losing is more expensive

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

10M was a stretch for sure, but a family in Jolliet recently got 2.9M USD for the police raiding the wrong house and quite a while back Dr. Lawrence Crosby got 1.25M USD for the police arresting him for the theft of his own car based on an anonymous tip.

[-] Szyler@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Those are accidents vs the op which was not an accident. It was legit the right place and searching for the right thing. They had some evidence to do the search legally. So your comment and this hypothetical aren't quite the same.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

The judge and jury don't know about the accident. The judge and jury will see that police raided an older couple's house based on at most a stock photo, an anonymous tinder account, a photo of school laboratory from an unknown source (anon's not even a real chemist), and an IP address which can be spoofed.

In fact, they don't even know anon is involved at all.

[-] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago

While true, your hypothesis doesn't take into consideration how often the police fuck up.

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