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The target mod of the ptb accusation has provided their reasoning here: https://lemm.ee/comment/17765107
After some misunderstandings were cleared up, I was asked by our friendly neighborhood Blaze to clarify what happened three days ago, which I did in the form of an outsourced message. And then I was asked to put this here by @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com based on the understanding the outcome will be as they said it will be.
There are other important parts, but we can treat them as looping back around to this. What may be everyone's ruling?
I cannot distinguish your post so I stickies mine with a link to it https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/16235632
.world mods are still frantically pissing into the wind, I see.
I lost all faith in .world after they banned piracy communities; unbanned them after user unrest; and when the hype died down, silently rebanned them all.
Their behaviour is becoming problematic as they appear to be modding to miriror reddit.
So we left reddit to be still modded by them?
Granted due to beauty of fedi, we can still have these discussions here but they are still winning.
Luigi talk suppression is brazen, reddit gets cleaned out from it with the most mild takes being left.
At the end of the day, a normal person won't have access to these ideas because algos and mods won't let them. You don't know life is simulation until you try to step out of it.
Start a new Ask Lemmy on a different instance and announce it. I’ll subscribe.
My account is too unhinged for modding job lol
A mod has to maintain appearance of propriety and I aint here to moderate my speech.
I do think though we will need to subs on various servers to mirrior these high traffic communities as rejects can be captured after being banned on high traffic subs. There is demand for free discussion (within reason) clearly.
This sub is an indicator of that.
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Even the !asklemmy@lemmy.world mods have alts on other instances and aren't that positive against LW.
Edit: hm, reading this thread they seem to be powertripping somehow, that's sad
For casual questions, there is !casualconversation@lemm.ee, but for more serious topics, I don't know.
World seems to be presenting itself as Reddit 2.0, and has been for a very long time. It's also where a lot of the default subreddits came, which meant the same mod team and probably a few power users.
Which is not inherently bad, but I'd like the Reddit culture to stay on Reddit as much as possible.
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Won't tolerate blind alignment with Luigi? Yikes that's a lot of work, they're going to have to ban like 1/3 of the entire fediverse.
I know right? It's utter madness. And they already tried and failed to clamp down the support for Luigi on LW before this. It's got, "this is gonna backfire" written all over it.
I wish I had your optimism. Personally, I feel like the world tends to try to clamp down pretty good on violent activism, and often for understandable reasons. I had hoped this time was different, that this time it was a uniting sentiment despite our many other divides in America. Instead, I often heard my conservative colleagues ironically admonish political violence over the past month.
We can't seem to agree on a single thing, not even to despise the people killing our friends and family, and robbing us blind.
PTB all the way matey. Who gets to define which advocacy is "wrongful"? Are they going to start banning people for advocating for the oil and gas industry as well? That's arguably much more "wrongful".
Also, there's no mention of "wrongful advocacy" in either the community sidebar or the LW TOS afaik, so presumably it's just a made up rule.
What does PTB mean?
The funny thing about this is, when the .world mods were being insanely prohibitive of any speech involving Luigi, and censoring discussion if the event when it happened, the excuse they used was since the server is in a European country, it's illegal to foster speech that "promotes violence."
I changed my server then, as did many others, after witnessing the censorship, but it's fun to see now the mask-off answer of just not liking Luigi.
Alright good folk, what’s your take here.
PTB
They’ve effectively silenced me. I can’t keep track of where I can say pro-Luigi things.
checks modlog wow you sure do talk about assassination a lot. no judgement, just.. impressed i guess
We tried the nonviolent stuff…
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Colombian neckties for the rich!
Luigi Mangione is a champion of the people.
Block the communities that remove your pro-Luigi comments. No need to keep track of them; their mods are garbage, and you don't want to be associated with them.
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I had similar issues with my pro-Palestinian views, and dislike towards USA centered liberalism; so I just left and blocked many of their default communities
Honest work don't pay, but bigger point is the suppression for the specific topic.
This is happening on the decentralized media too
Just keep going on about it, and see how many bans you can pick up.
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PTB. Luigi Mangione did nothing wrong
PTB. other considerations aside, like 2/3rds of the internet has a politics crush on Luigi. at some point mods gotta just accept that Luigi jokes are gonna be everywhere, like 9/11 jokes. and honestly overall, censorship of jokes makes them more funny and therefore more long lasting. barbara streisand type beat.
Ugh, this kind of "moderation" is almost making me want to take my instance and set up communities that are structured with different rules and guidelines that would mostly allow it, because frankly, fuck censorship of anything that's not hate or illegal speech.
Then I realize that'd be a job I'm not being paid for and I don't.
Sigh.
because frankly, fuck censorship of anything that’s not hate or illegal speech
Amen, brother!
PTB
My take is I’m glad you already aren’t on their instance because they gotta go :)
People really need to lean into DEcentralization and make accounts on smaller servers IMHO
Smaller admins don't bother modding unless you are a proper threat actor or doing illegal shot.
High traffic subs have a lot of censorship sadly.
And this censorship is literally text book from corporate social media. Bootlickers are the biggest enemies of working class because then daddy owner ain't even getting his hands dirty lol
Broadly, .world is fairly obviously mirroring the sycophantic policies of X/Meta/Reddit.
The only real question I have is whether it's primarily rooted in ambition or fear - whether the admin are actively trying to be admitted to the ranks of Trump-approved™ social media, or if they're just afraid that if they don't kowtow, they're going to get TikToked.
That's because they are wanting to federate with Meta
Ah... yes.
It became obvious to me that something was up with the announcement a while back that said, once you sifted through all the diversionary puffery and bullshit, that .world was going to follow Vichy Twitter's and Meta's lead and allow hate speech and misinformation.
But I assumed they were doing that for the same reason Meta is - to suck up to Big Baby Fascist. I hadn't considered that they were doing it to suck up to Meta.
Now it all makes sense.
Yeah I can't tell if some mods on . world are natural bootlickers and actually LARP this shit for free OR they straight up threat actors
Fucking hosers.
You're right, they're PTB.
AskLemmy mod team would appear to be PTB
I just got banned for this as well. lol I only got banned after calling out their mods bad source too.
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I think that might be libel. I doubt that there is anything "blind" about your alignment with Luigi Mangione.
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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
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