The accelerationists are predominately privileged white people who see Muslims and immigrants as the cost of doing business. Accelerationists seem to think they can shame everyone else into accepting genocide. No matter how much your argument or theirs tries to twist the truth, refuting these arguments will be trivial.

This election we had a choice between a Democrat who wanted to end the war and a Republican who wanted Israel to finish the job. Choosing the Democrat was the most useful choice to help the Palestinians. The people arguing for things to get worse in the hope they get better by not voting Democrat are making the accelerationist argument. Those positions are in fact one in the same. Your argument is pretending they are different, but is unable to articulate any difference whatsoever.

From the river to the sea. I'm a social democrat.

If you actually cared, accelerationism would bother you because they left the Palestinians out to dry. Trump being president may have killed Palestinian statehood. Israel is talking about annexing the West Bank. These election results have undoubtedly extended the genocide in Gaza for at least the next four years, assuming anyone lives that long. Israel wants to build a greater Israel out of Lebanon too and Trump is going to let them. Accelerationism is useless.

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Your argument is what is known as a straw man. No where in my argument do I claim accelerationists are evil. My argument is that accelerationism as a strategy is useless.

Your argument isn't based on the discussions on Lemmy or anything in the argument you are responding to. If you aren't going to engage with either of those then there is little point of continuing this discussion.

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The US just elected a fascist dictator. Millions of people are now at risk of being deported and millions could be killed by fascist policies. Your argument is unsuccessfully minimizing how badly this election has fucked us. The people arguing against voting Democrat are the accelerationists arguing for a strategy to make society collapse.

Why are you lying about the accelerationists that are supposedly everywhere?

I recommend paying attention. The results of this election could impact us for decades to come and may lead us to some of the worst outcomes of climate change. Accelerationists have fundamentally misunderstood the lessons of history and have demonstrated they do not care about anyone but themselves. Things get better when we learn from our mistakes not when we repeat them. Watching things burn is useless. We have to do the work to make things better. edit: typo

I'm not reposting all of lemmy for you here. They are in this comment section even.

If pollution under Trump is as bad as he is promising the idea of hitting 5 degrees C by 2075 doesn't seem that far fetched.

It's 2024 so that's 51 years from now. I'm 31. If I'm not dead by then I would be 82. So I could, in theory, live to see it.

This is the story that we need to be focusing on until election day. None of the other stunts matter. If anything this post should be pinned. We should keep our eye on the ball even if the media won't.

Trump threatened to send the military and the national guard after people on the left and Democratic politicians. This is blatant and open fascism. In any other election Trump being openly fascist would be the October surprise. Everyone needs to see this.

I didn't want to believe it but they're already in the comments. We need to be vocal. Kamala is a great candidate.

The discourse around Biden exiting the race is moot because the only one who decides if he continues is Biden. Biden is still running so nothing changes. Biden is who we need to vote for to keep our democracy.

Biden had a bad debate performance. It was a missed opportunity to pick up new voters. Biden demoralized his base. But we're still stuck with him, because there is no external mechanism to stop him from running.

The most effective tool we have to prevent the christo-fascist takeover this November is voting. The debate did not change that.

The Uncommitted Movement's goal to get high uncommitted voter turnout in the primary so that Joe Biden changes his outdated views on Palestine and Israel is great.

However if people vote uncommitted in the primaries because they are convinced Biden is Genocide Joe then they aren't going to want to vote for Biden in the general election.

I see a lot of people in comments sections, including this one, saying we should let states secede because they would lose federal funding and this would punish those states. I get that a lot of this is people joking around. But I would like to point out this isn't an effective way to punish the fascists who are actually causing problems.

The fascists in control of those states are usually wealthy individuals and won't be harmed by this at all. The people who will be harmed by this is our fellow people. Also, not everyone in those states identify as Republicans. Take Texas as an example where a majority of people are not Republican.

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/state/texas/party-affiliation/

Only 39% of Texas adults identify as Republican or lean Republican. 21% have no lean and 40% identify as Democrat or lean Democrat.

We are much better off pressing sedition charges against Abbott and his cabinet members if he actually tries something more serious than this or keeps this stunt going for too long.

So any president can engage in insurrection as recognized by a court completely unpunished as long as they aren’t an officer in the military and “only a civilian”?

It's even weirder, because she is saying this phrase, "any office, civil or military, under the United States” does not cover the office of the president. Which is a terrible ruling as the president is a civilian officer and thus covered by section 3 of the Fourteenth amendment. The ruling comes off as a blatant misreading of the text.

Maybe this legal system does deserve to be burned to the ground if it’s that ignorant.

Our government is being infiltrated by fascists at all levels. We need to vote the fascists out.