If conservatives don't figure out that he is 100% of the reason they lost, they're 'effin stupid and blind.

It's plainly obvious what the problem is when your party gains seats, but your leader loses his because the only person people hate more than him, resigned. (Trudeau)

When the public is sooo eager for any reason to no longer vote for you that you lose a super majority the moment the first opportunity presented itself, you are the problem.

Irrelevant. It's not about changing their mind. It's about making them afraid to spread their bullshit.

Maybe Telus will hire him back. It's literally the only thing on his resume.

Looks like everything is in and it ended up with Liberals 169 seats, three short of a majority.

Although jeez, I can't imagine there isn't a recount in the riding where the difference was literally 12 votes out of 21,000. Crazy close.

Either way, I'm guessing the 7 NDP and 1 Green basically become de facto Liberals to create a pseudo majority since at least that way they'll have some influence and it wouldn't be in their best interest to topple the government and go through all this again.

"You either die as the hero or you live long enough to become the villain" is honestly more true than anyone realises.

Trudeau had been Prime Minister for a decade. At that length of time, general dissatisfaction and want of change becomes something that opponents can grab onto and start lobbying all kinds of blame at him for. Some warranted, some not.

Oddly enough I wouldn't even call it a collapse.

Conservatives walked away with far more seats than they did in 2021.

Yes...it's a collapse from what they were projected to win before JT stepped down. But more than anything it's shown that it isn't necessarily the Cons that we have a problem with, it's the "Trump-Style" Conservatism that Poppinfresh tried to inject into the narrative. Rhetoric, slogans, hateful dogma, gaslighting the voters to think that everything is broken and that "they're" the only ones who can fix it, etc...

It's not a surprise that as soon as JT stepped down voters said "Oh thank god" because they could finally stop holding their nose and not have to vote for the one guy that they hated slightly less than Trudeau.

If Conservatives don't oust him as leader after it's plain as day that HE is the hated one, not them, then they're stupid.

Better chance of it, yeah. But I suspect Trump's antics against us meant that they guy who was one of the most respected financial minds in the world and led two countries through previous crises was always going to win.

They couldn't have scripted a better narrative than "Trump's a financial idiot and I'm one of the top financial minds on the planet."

Wasn't an option. Much like MAGA down south, Poppinfresh completely hijacked the conservative narrative; refusing to allow reporters to follow him on the campaign trail, forbidding Conservative MPs from talking to the media without his approval and only with his selected talking points.

Any divisive information from the Conservative party came by way of leaks and insiders. Poppinfresh in NO WAY wanted there to be any division shown in public. For him, like Trump, it was all hail the leader or he'll do what he can to get your career shit-canned.

In many way, I looked at this election not only as Left vs Right, but at least as much about the Conservatives battle to take back their party to a (slightly) more sane time when differences were largely about economic policies instead of cultural ones.

I'm just spit-balling here, but is it totally off the table to dig up Jack Layton and elect him in some kind of "Weekend at Bernie's" type shenanigan?

No way. His smile is contagious. It just seems odd because its so rare to see a politician with a genuine smile and not a carefully crafted one.

I would honestly love to see Wab Kinew take a run at the federal leadership.