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Banned sunzu2 from the community Ask Lemmy reason: Will not tolerate blind alignment with Luigi Mangione expires: in 3 days

Alright good folk, what's your take here.

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[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 92 points 1 month ago

.world mods are still frantically pissing into the wind, I see.

[-] firegem@lemm.ee 84 points 1 month ago

I lost all faith in .world after they banned piracy communities; unbanned them after user unrest; and when the hype died down, silently rebanned them all.

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[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 55 points 1 month ago

Their behaviour is becoming problematic as they appear to be modding to miriror reddit.

So we left reddit to be still modded by them?

Granted due to beauty of fedi, we can still have these discussions here but they are still winning.

Luigi talk suppression is brazen, reddit gets cleaned out from it with the most mild takes being left.

At the end of the day, a normal person won't have access to these ideas because algos and mods won't let them. You don't know life is simulation until you try to step out of it.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 1 month ago

Start a new Ask Lemmy on a different instance and announce it. I’ll subscribe.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 18 points 1 month ago

My account is too unhinged for modding job lol

A mod has to maintain appearance of propriety and I aint here to moderate my speech.

I do think though we will need to subs on various servers to mirrior these high traffic communities as rejects can be captured after being banned on high traffic subs. There is demand for free discussion (within reason) clearly.

This sub is an indicator of that.

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[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Even the !asklemmy@lemmy.world mods have alts on other instances and aren't that positive against LW.

Edit: hm, reading this thread they seem to be powertripping somehow, that's sad

For casual questions, there is !casualconversation@lemm.ee, but for more serious topics, I don't know.

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 24 points 1 month ago

World seems to be presenting itself as Reddit 2.0, and has been for a very long time. It's also where a lot of the default subreddits came, which meant the same mod team and probably a few power users.

Which is not inherently bad, but I'd like the Reddit culture to stay on Reddit as much as possible.

[-] Orbituary@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago
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[-] GrundlButter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 69 points 1 month ago

Won't tolerate blind alignment with Luigi? Yikes that's a lot of work, they're going to have to ban like 1/3 of the entire fediverse.

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago

Is it blind alignment with Luigi to say that he's innocent until proven guilty, a right afforded to him by the Fifth Amendment?

That his guilt must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt?

That the case against him is circumstantial at best?

[-] GrundlButter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago

I'll agree with you on points 1 and 2, but as for the case being circumstantial... That honestly depends on the veracity of the confession that was found on him. Meaning to say, unless the evidence was planted, which is possible, it's trivial to determine that the act happened.

Personally, I just think it's justified. Brian Thompson was a murderer that would never face consequences, because for some reason, if you murder and torture people by policy and pen, it's totally legal. That ain't right, and if we can't reform the system to bring these murderers to justice... Well... You're gonna have some vigilantes, and they will be justified in their actions, and they will be celebrated by their peers.

Free Luigi, and point him in the direction of Anthem's CEO.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 3 days ago

The mod who made this call is pretty unhinged tbh as we found after this was posted.

But apparently she loves bootlicking regime tho just hates other plebs

[-] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 month ago

I know right? It's utter madness. And they already tried and failed to clamp down the support for Luigi on LW before this. It's got, "this is gonna backfire" written all over it.

[-] GrundlButter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago

I wish I had your optimism. Personally, I feel like the world tends to try to clamp down pretty good on violent activism, and often for understandable reasons. I had hoped this time was different, that this time it was a uniting sentiment despite our many other divides in America. Instead, I often heard my conservative colleagues ironically admonish political violence over the past month.

We can't seem to agree on a single thing, not even to despise the people killing our friends and family, and robbing us blind.

[-] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 1 month ago

PTB all the way matey. Who gets to define which advocacy is "wrongful"? Are they going to start banning people for advocating for the oil and gas industry as well? That's arguably much more "wrongful".

Also, there's no mention of "wrongful advocacy" in either the community sidebar or the LW TOS afaik, so presumably it's just a made up rule.

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 month ago

Alright good folk, what’s your take here.

PTB

[-] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 month ago

The funny thing about this is, when the .world mods were being insanely prohibitive of any speech involving Luigi, and censoring discussion if the event when it happened, the excuse they used was since the server is in a European country, it's illegal to foster speech that "promotes violence."

I changed my server then, as did many others, after witnessing the censorship, but it's fun to see now the mask-off answer of just not liking Luigi.

[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 39 points 1 month ago

They’ve effectively silenced me. I can’t keep track of where I can say pro-Luigi things.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 25 points 1 month ago

checks modlog wow you sure do talk about assassination a lot. no judgement, just.. impressed i guess

[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 37 points 1 month ago

We tried the nonviolent stuff…

🤷‍♀️

[-] psyklax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago

"There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and cartridge (or ammo). Please use in that order."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_boxes_of_liberty

[-] Lennny@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Colombian neckties for the rich!

[-] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Luigi Mangione is a champion of the people.

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 18 points 1 month ago

Block the communities that remove your pro-Luigi comments. No need to keep track of them; their mods are garbage, and you don't want to be associated with them.

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[-] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago

I had similar issues with my pro-Palestinian views, and dislike towards USA centered liberalism; so I just left and blocked many of their default communities

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 8 points 1 month ago

Honest work don't pay, but bigger point is the suppression for the specific topic.

This is happening on the decentralized media too

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[-] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 month ago

PTB. Luigi Mangione did nothing wrong

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

PTB. other considerations aside, like 2/3rds of the internet has a politics crush on Luigi. at some point mods gotta just accept that Luigi jokes are gonna be everywhere, like 9/11 jokes. and honestly overall, censorship of jokes makes them more funny and therefore more long lasting. barbara streisand type beat.

Ugh, this kind of "moderation" is almost making me want to take my instance and set up communities that are structured with different rules and guidelines that would mostly allow it, because frankly, fuck censorship of anything that's not hate or illegal speech.

Then I realize that'd be a job I'm not being paid for and I don't.

Sigh.

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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Someone likes the taste of corporate boot?

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[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 month ago
[-] ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 month ago

My take is I’m glad you already aren’t on their instance because they gotta go :)

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 18 points 1 month ago

People really need to lean into DEcentralization and make accounts on smaller servers IMHO

Smaller admins don't bother modding unless you are a proper threat actor or doing illegal shot.

High traffic subs have a lot of censorship sadly.

And this censorship is literally text book from corporate social media. Bootlickers are the biggest enemies of working class because then daddy owner ain't even getting his hands dirty lol

[-] dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 month ago

Fucking hosers.

You're right, they're PTB.

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago

Fucking hosers.

There's a word I haven't heard in a long time!

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[-] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 month ago

Broadly, .world is fairly obviously mirroring the sycophantic policies of X/Meta/Reddit.

The only real question I have is whether it's primarily rooted in ambition or fear - whether the admin are actively trying to be admitted to the ranks of Trump-approved™ social media, or if they're just afraid that if they don't kowtow, they're going to get TikToked.

[-] GoldenCow@lemm.ee 15 points 1 month ago

That's because they are wanting to federate with Meta

[-] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 month ago

Ah... yes.

It became obvious to me that something was up with the announcement a while back that said, once you sifted through all the diversionary puffery and bullshit, that .world was going to follow Vichy Twitter's and Meta's lead and allow hate speech and misinformation.

But I assumed they were doing that for the same reason Meta is - to suck up to Big Baby Fascist. I hadn't considered that they were doing it to suck up to Meta.

Now it all makes sense.

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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

AskLemmy mod team would appear to be PTB

[-] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 11 points 1 month ago

I just got banned for this as well. lol I only got banned after calling out their mods bad source too.

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[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 8 points 1 month ago

I think that might be libel. I doubt that there is anything "blind" about your alignment with Luigi Mangione.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 weeks ago

The target mod of the ptb accusation has provided their reasoning here: https://lemm.ee/comment/17765107

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