Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new "king"
Update: position got backed up by an official Proton post on Mastodon, it's an official Proton statement now. https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/113833073219145503
Update 2, plot-twist: they removed this response from Mastodon - seems they realize it exploded into their face!
Oh FFS, and here I was recently considering switching to ProtonMail... fuck the fuck off.
Dear CEOs: if you're eager to suck dick, I'm sure you can find someone better than authoritarian shitheads. Have some fucking standards.
I went through so much effort to move my small business and team over to proton. wtf.
I am dissapointed that my VPN is getting involved in US politics. This is not something I want for this kind of service. I dont want to debate US politics here. That being said, I cancelled my annual autorenew for April and I would like some recommendations. Originally I was deciding between Mulvad and Proton. I've also seen some people in this thread using Tuta? I am in Europe and just want a service that prioritizes anonyminity and data protection. I don't know how the dust will settle on all this Proton stuff. What would you all recommend for a provider?
I was a Mullvad user until they dropped support for port forwarding, something I needed on a daily basis. Then I moved to Air Vpn. All things considered, Mullvad is a great experience, and I completely recommend it.
I've used mullvad before and it was a great experience. As far as anonymity goes, I don't think you can do any better than mullvad where you even have privacy friendly payment options. That said, I haven't used proton VPN so I'm not sure how they compare feature-wise
So apparently mullvad and windscribe are the best ones people use.
And I am using windscribe no problem.
~~It is however not as good integrated in Linux as nordvpn.~~ But it's a lot cheaper.
Edit: only on nixos you don't have the app.
Extra weird because this is always the narrative, yet Trump could be any further from "standing up for the little guys" if he tried. It's the same with the AfD in Germany, their voted policies (which is public as per the EU regulations) are as anti-consumer pro-corpo as you can be, even edging our truly crazy libertarian money sucker positions.
"standing up for the little guys" actually means "being racist as fuck". Hope this helps you understand their position.
OK let me add fuel to the fire. here in Andy's response he says the tweet was from last year which is technically true but it was from December 2024.
Also how can he think that Trump stands for little guys when he has elon musk as his pet monkey
I actually thinknit's the other way round but anyway.
Just some advice for all of you affected by this.
Begin demanding a response from the ownership of this company.
"Is this Message approved by your board, and owners"
Just leaving doesnt make a difference, and some of you in the comments bought services right before this. That fucking sucks.
We dont have journalists and media on our side to help any more(arguably we never did, but that's a separate discussion)
I think there are still good bones in Proton, but you know where at least one piece cancer is, and its in the worst spot. Demand as stakeholders that they remove the cancer or admit its not going to happen. Repeat your messages until they publicy respond as a company not just the head of it.
Its a shame if you dont do at least as much as expressing that they owe you an explanation and that you need the company as a whole, to why this had happened
This is a betrayal to many of you, tell them exactly what they need to do
Good luck. It only takes one of you to suceed and we all win
"omg, turns out this big tech company is not my friend"
I don't know if I would describe proton as a big tech company. Even if they were, their whole pitch is "you can trust us".
I was just going to start my de-google to Proton. Time for a new plan.
Does anyone have links to the dumpster fire of a reddit thread in one or the Proton subs? There was also one of r/privacy but I can't find either so suspect they've been deleted to try to quell the flames.
It was very entertaining drama
It’d actually be super useful if all of the VPN CEOs publicly stated which authoritarian leaders they are a fan of, so that consumers can make an informed choice on how easily they’ll sell you out to the security apparatus of your country.
Self hosting is better these days.
How exactly does one self host a worldwide network of proxy servers?
Very carefully
But does this only create one node, or does it create dozens of them in each country?
Because I use a VPN so I can have anonymous exit nodes in whatever country I want. Happy to be corrected, but I don't think that's self-hostable.
Andy is sad that he didn’t taste that sweet sweet cheeseburger and diet coke cock.
Wtf Proton is same of Zuckerberg & Musk !!! Which mail could we use now ? Where the hell is the world going ? Could we have an Europe Elon Free, an Europe Zuck Free, and Swiss Proton Free...?!
What is a good alternative for Mail? I'm mostly for Proton because of Data security and Mail aliases. But this move is actually concerning.
Yes, I know the background behind it.
Tuta and Posteo are my recommndations for mail.
I registered and waiting for activation. Will probably also subscribe the lower plan.
Lmao, proton looked sus to me for a long time. Good I never felt for anything more than their email.
Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.
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