Y'all can't even fucking read lmao not even pretending you found a gotcha, just doing madlibs with a word or two you found in the comment.

No wonder it's so easy to propagandize you.

You're still doing the propaganda work of the gringos.

The point is, Ukrainians want it, Ukrainians should get it. You think the war should continue? That's fine, get your country to wage it so you can go and fight it.

Nah, I base my opinion around the evidence. If the consensus of the US and Western Europe was what drove my opinion, I'd have been in favor of killing Gaddafi, invading Iraq, torturing Asians in Vietnam, bombing Iran, and all other sorts of monstrous shit.

I'll wait for y'all to pretend you were always on the fence or against but simultaneously there was no way of knowing, since only the tankies were saying it and we know we can't trust those.

Christ, I can get more intelligent conversation from a 7 year old anywhere in the world than a western adult I stg. It's like talking to Matt Miller.

Fr. It's taken as a given that they don't give a fuck about the opinion of Ukrainians. Shit, if you're so against Putin, why not have your country go to war so you can put on the boots? Why do others have to die for what you believe in?

https://news.gallup.com/poll/653495/half-ukrainians-quick-negotiated-end-war.aspx

All of the data is there, they even provide downloadable spreadsheets with the distribution by region.

Bruh are we at the point when saying "I agree with Ukrainian civilians in wishing the bloodshed would stop via diplomacy" gets gringos frothing at the mouth? What the fuck is wrong with y'all

Did your script get jammed? They were bombing Donbas in violation of the peace deal for years after Russians had already exited the country.

If the US insists on its clients violating brokered agreements, they shouldn't be surprised when others don't trust their word.

And donating to that cause turns out to mean "donating my assets to my foundation so they stay tax free and investing the 2% I'm required by law into 'solutions' that perpetrate/profiteer from the problem"

If it contradicts the State Department line, it's biased. If it's based on evidence, reality is biased.

The west has to balance providing adequate arms and not getting bombed/invaded themselves. They only do invasions on enemies they think can't defend themselves.

They thought the sanctions would do to Russia what it did to Libya, Venezuela, Iraq, and many others, and that they'd only need to drag this one out to win it on the economic rather than the military front. That obviously hasn't worked, so rather than broker the peace talks a majority of Ukrainians want, they're escalating because they don't know how to do diplomacy, they only know how to do extortion. They're talking about "negotiating from strength" ffs.

Because he's a senile genocidal fuck whose only restraints for provoking a nuclear war was that he might lose an election he already lost.