[-] LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

should apply to China, seeing how most of their bad shit happend internally with the notable exceptions of Taiwan and Hong Kong

Those are still internal to China. I can understand that people are ignorant of the fact that Taiwan is part of China given the rhetoric around it and the fact that it is still provisionally ruled by the ousted rump-state nationalist government that still thinks it's the legitimate ruler of Mongolia too. Taiwan IS part of China, but there IS something being actually being contested there. But Hong Kong? Hong Kong unambiguously is in China, it's just one of the Special Autonomous Regions, but even they themselves consider themselves part of China, not "external" to it.

Also, it's not "bad shit," it's treating reactionaries with relatively kid gloves.

There is a distinctive difference between Russia and China, despite both belonging to same political alliance and both have a dictatorial leaderships.

China does not have a "dictorial" leadership. As for Russia, well it's leadership is no more "dictorial" than that of any western "democracy" leadership. Their "political alliance" is still relatively loose, and the only way in which they could be considered part of the same "axis" (not a word you used, but still kind of implied) is because the US's belligerence against them both has driven them closer together.

Hating west/USA and loving either of them would make one a campist,

Hating the west/USA is just a matter of simultaneously knowing history and being a compassionate, empathetic human being. And I would bet that most of the people you would say "love" either Russia or China rather just support their actions and goals, probably very critically in the case of Russia, and do so for rational reasons based on the true behavior of those countries. That is not campism. Campism is when you support (or "love") a country not because its actions genuinely align with your own ideals or ideology but purely because you identify with it. Interestingly, it largely stems from a failure of self-awareness. There absolutely are campists for Russia and for China, I am not denying that at all. But despite what the libs here say, you won't find very many of them on lemmy. Most of the people on lemmy support these countries for very rational reasons regarding ideology and their geopolitical conduct.

but I’m not sure about that qualifyng as tankie.

I always understood it to be a derogatory term for the general authoritarian communist/pseudo-communist block more so than applying to all national supermacists.

This is more or less correct. Most campists on lemmy support the US/NATO and they certainly aren't tankies by anyone's standards. You're right about it always having been solely a derogatory term for certain radical leftists, nowadays usually those who support countries whose governments are fighting western imperialism. But like many others have said in this thread, it is becoming so diluted that merely not supporting the fascist DNC has been enough to get a person labeled a tankie. The silly "authoritarian" part mostly came into play once liberals started using the term and (as usual) completely not understanding its origins (origins that have to do with a specific uprising in Hungary in the 1950s).

[-] LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

Honestly, I would rather live in North Korea or Russia than in this slowly crumbling empire shithole founded on genocide, slavery, eugenics, and the perfecting of exploitation, surrounded by the most pasty, pathetic, and propagandized motherfuckers the world has ever known, which you are testament to seeing as you thought Ukraine was winning this, lol. Of course I would have to give up a lot of treats to live in NK, but the treats here are mostly garbage anyway, and at least I'd have an actual sense of community and not have to exist as an atomized drone in a rotting wasteland of billboards, fast"food" franchises and traffic-jammed SUVs from horizon to horizon. Moving to Russia would probably feel like a mostly lateral shift in QoL, but it must be nice to live in a country with a rich history of killing nazis instead of saving, funding, idolizing, and actually you know, being nazis.

Whatever though. It sure was fun watching @Z_Poster365@hexbear.net completely fucking school you on basic shit your coping ass kept pathetically trying to deny.

[-] LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml 14 points 4 days ago

Eastern Ukrain was genocide, then what is happening to the Uygurs is definitely also genocide.

Except in Ukraine people did die and their heritage and language were being actively suppressed, etc. We know this because it is documented all over, even in pictures on the net. These specific things are readily confirmable. It was even a large impetus for a broader war, as hopefully you're aware. There is zero question that Ukrainian nazis were shelling Russian-speaking civilians in the Donbas and that Ukraine as a state was passing laws detrimental to Russian speakers.

In Xinjiang, no such evidence exists because nothing of the sort happened. It's based on a lie dreamed up by one Christian fundamentalist Adrian Zenz. Every source on this "genocide" traces back to him, and none of the claims are confirmable. Even to the UN! In fact you, yes, even you if you have the means to travel, can go there today and see for yourself that the Uyghur population is thriving and they will laugh if you tell them they're being genocided. I'll leave the academic discussion for exactly where to draw the line for the definition of the term genocide to others for now. But based on how you were defining it, Ukraine was committing genocide, but no, China was doing quite the opposite by encouraging ethnic diversity. Again, go see for yourself like this person did: Oh yeah, just look at all that genociding going on!

[-] LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml 21 points 4 days ago

Behold, fellow lemmy browsers: here^ we see the scratched liberal as their mask starts to slip. Not unlike the "UHMUHRICA! Love it er LEAVE it!" style of chud. They have a similar simplistic and deeply uncurious faulty view of the world, a view desperately clung to even when they are shown it is undeniably false, for self reflection is too frightening a concept for them even to consider.

[-] LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 days ago

Russia entered a conflict that was already in progress, a civil war where the Ukrainian coup government was attempting to ethnically cleanse the Russian speaking population in the east. This coup was orchestrated by the US (this was obvious, admitted to in recorded phone calls, and was rife with high US politicians (John McCaine for example) going there to celebrate. The US/NATO also funded the training and arming of openly neo-nazi militias like Azov Battalion, (and others) many of whom were the ones shelling the people in the East long before Russia intervened. All of this was done by the US to exert pressure on Russia. And this is just scratching the surface. So no, Russia did not "do this to itself" and your framing of it is naive and simplistic and just plain false.

I am genuinely glad to see you reognize the villainization of China, but please also apply those same critical thinking skills to what you have been told about Russia in the Ukraine conflict and do some digging into the history that doesn't rely on western propaganda.

[-] LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 days ago

I cannot take you seriously if you willfully swallow the firehose of US propaganda about how cHiNa BAD ebil aUthOrItArIaN when it's a country whose government has the enthusiastic approval of over 90% of the population, the country that lifted 850 million people out of abject poverty, the only large country doing anything significant about the mass extinction event that is climate change, the country that... well, I could go on. But no, keep believing those lies like a good lil western capitalism enjoyer.

[-] LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

This one isn't just staying ignorant, they're loudly proclaiming their ignorance as if they're proud of it. Yikes.

[-] LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml 14 points 4 days ago

Not believing in blatant right-wing propaganda is a leftist position. Parroting right-wing propaganda is a right-wing position. You are parroting right-wing propaganda. Please stop doing that, especially if you consider yourself on the left.

[-] LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml 14 points 4 days ago

Oh, you mean like what the Ukrainian coup government was doing to the people in the east (Donbas) for years before Russia even entered the conflict? Yes, there is a strong argument to be made that genocide is the term we should use with regard to what Ukraine was attempting to do to the Russian-speaking population in their country.

[-] LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 days ago

Summary of this comment: "Do you recognize reality and not believe the ocean of NATO propaganda we're all awash in? Then you're a tankie. Do you reject a bunch of bullshit I made up using fascist-invented terms like "red fash" and "totalitarian"? Then you're a tankie."

Ok, I'm a definitely tankie then. It must suck not to be one and be stuck in these pitiful, childish delusions, and labeling people "orks" and ascribing people who value truth with what you think is an epithet. Some grade A fuckin' cringe right here.

[-] LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 days ago

Holy fucking shit what a coward you are. This person @TheOubliette@lemmy.ml has done more in good faith to actually educate you about things no leftist should be ignorant about than you deserve. You have this tremendous opportunity to genuinely learn from someone with a wealth of knowledge and actually deepen your understanding of the world and even the ideology you claim to subscribe to, but instead you plug your ears and pretend there's nothing to be gleaned from this generous education you're being offered all because it conflicts with your preconceptions, your misconceptions which is cognitively uncomfortable. But that really does just come down to cowardice. I hope one day you can recognize this, recognize the importance of and necessity for self crit. If not, you'll forever be stuck as you are, the proverbial useful idiot for the same empire you claim to wish to see an end to.

[-] LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml 38 points 4 days ago

Many of them lived through the entire Nuclear age.

That's just it though, considering that they are the leaders of a giant death cult, many of them probably feel like they got shortchanged when the USSR fell without any nuclear armageddon, not even a little bit. angery This could be Biden's last chance for the Christmas he always really wanted.

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Just putting this up to contrast with this post and because Eli Valley is a great political cartoonist.

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Are comments no longer visible for anyone else using the youtube frontends? I can no longer see comments with either invidious, piped, or viewtube, and I've tried several instances of each. With invidious there's just nothing there below the video description. With viewtube I get an error message. And with piped I see placeholder text "Avatar, null, -1 replies" in place of every comment. The last one is kind of funny actually, and better than most comments anyway.

I'm assuming youtube/google did something fucky again to try to dissuade people from doing what they can to escape their bullshit and hopefully viewing the comments on videos will be back to normal when the frontend devs make it work again in a couple days. But I figured it would be worth checking here to make sure it's not just on my end. Then again, it will probably be better for my sanity and my struggle not to descend into sheer misanthropic hatred if I just never read youtube comments again.

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