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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by admiralpatrick@lemmy.world to c/unpopularopinion@lemmy.world

Just added rule 6 to the sidebar that reduces some ambiguity between rules 4 and 5. 99% of posts here already do this, so there shouldn't be much change other than it being required now.

Rule 6: Defend your position

This is a bit of a mix of rules 4 and 5 to help foster higher quality posts. You are expected to defend your unpopular opinion in the post body. We don't expect a whole manifesto (please, no manifestos), but you should at least provide some details as to why you hold the position you do.

This won't be applied retroactively, but anything from here on out is expected to include some exposition to go along with the opinion itself

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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by ptz@dubvee.org to c/unpopularopinion@lemmy.world

In the community details, we have a note about "Vote the opposite of the norm":

If you agree that the opinion is unpopular give it an arrow up. If it's something that's widely accepted, give it an arrow down.

I've read lots of comments here that amount to that being confusing. There's also the fact that not everyone votes like that, so it's hard to really tell from the votes if something is widely considered unpopular or not. Plus, I don't really want to tell people how to vote.

I also just realized that it's slightly unfair to people running with downvotes disabled.

So, should we get rid of that guidance and just assume posts are voted based on their overall merit / agreement? I'll leave that up to you all.


There are two distinguished comments below which will be used as the poll. Upvote the one you wish to vote in favor of. You can downvote the opposing option if you want, but it won't affect the results; I'm only going to look at the upvote counts. I'll leave this up until next Friday to give everyone time to voice their opinions.

I'm not going to lock the post so that you can comment with any opinions or thoughts. Hopefully the 'distinguish comment' action federates out so those remain visible. If not, look for the two top level comments from me that start with [POLL]

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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by GrammarPolice@lemmy.world to c/unpopularopinion@lemmy.world

Every generation has had that one weird trend. This one's here to stay. Get over it.

You may even find it funny if you stopped being grouchy about it.

Edit: I guess this is a truly unpopular opinion. You rarely see that on this comm...

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Nuts are just bad. (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by Agosagror@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/unpopularopinion@lemmy.world

I hate nuts. I'm not allergic to them.

Everything about them is wrong, I've never had food that contained nuts that wouldn't have been significantly better without them.

Chocolate with nuts - What was wrong with just the former

Nuts on their own - Might as well eat wood

Nutbars - gross.

Food with nuts is just bad, and the sooner we move on from this dated cultural institution the better.

This was inspired by the last two posts

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Inspired by the chocolate fruit post. I like brownies and I like most varieties of nuts and legumes but they're ruined when combined

I don't want some soft rocks in my smooth brownie. The chocolate flavor is so strong, you can't even really taste them. It just adds a bad mouth feel.

I do not understand why this is popular. Get em out of there!!

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I feel like I'm the only one in my life who holds this opinion, but I have never tasted a combination of chocolate and fruit that wasn't significantly worse than the individual components.

  • Chocolate covered raisins? Blegh.
  • Chocolate dipped strawberries? I'll eat the shell then the rest.
  • Raspberry bits in fancy chocolate? You've ruined it.
  • Candied apple? Just plain caramel please, no chocolate.
  • Chocolate fondue? I'll stick to the marshmallows and graham crackers, thanks.
  • Gorp mix? I'm selecting handfuls with either raisins + peanuts or m&ms + peanuts, no blending.

Now I know taste buds are subjective, but how is it that folks will say a mixed bowl of m&ms and skittles is diabolical, yet happily chow down on other fruity chocolate combos? Give me my delicious fruit and chocolate - separately!

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submitted 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) by ICastFist@programming.dev to c/unpopularopinion@lemmy.world

If you live in an apartment, just don't get one

Reasoning edit: pets, especially cats, will leave a smell all over furniture. Cleaning becomes an even worse chore due to the fur. They also require "house training" in order to not chew/claw/destroy most stuff that's lying around the house.

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Isn't that very literally the point of the sub?

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All anyone cares about is which powerful man gets embarrassed. And I recon it's more likely that Maxwell will get out early than any predator gets jail.

There were HUNDREDS of victims; it went on for decades; and nobody gives a tiny shit. Have you heard anybody propose a law, a task force, even a blue ribbon commission to find out how this happened or make sure nobody does this again? Are their any more resources for victims because of this?

Our society accepts that men of wealth are entitled to abuse people. And sexual abuse is all in the game. Because at the end of the day our legal system is constructed to protect these people from the rabble, not hold them to account.

A pedophile is political designation to strip rights, dignity, and legitimacy from enemies. Children being harmed is beside the point.

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i hate earings (sh.itjust.works)

i automatically view it as mutilation, will never get piercings, and cant even save pics of ppl with earings because they trigger disgust in me

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Live streams suck.

Why do people even choose to view unedited video anyway?

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Not something I believe full stop, but imo there are signs that should there be a bubble, it will pop later than we may think. A few things for consideration.

Big tech continues to invest. They are greedy. They aren't stupid. They have access to better economic forcasting than we do. I believe they are aware of markets for the /application/ of AI which will continue to be profitable in the future. Think of how many things are pOwErEd By ArTiFiCiAl InTelIGence. That's really speak for we have api tokens we pay for.

Along these lines comes the stupid. Many of us have bosses who insist, if not demand, we use AI. The US Secretary of Defense had his own obnoxious version if this earlier this week. If the stupid want it, the demand will remain if not increase.

Artificial intellegence is self replicating, meaning if we feed it with whatever stupid queries we make, it will "get better" at the specifics and "create more versions". This creates further reliance and demand on those products that "do exactly what we want". It's an opiate. Like that one tng episode with the headsets (weak allusion and shameless pandering I know)

IMO generative AI is a dead end which will only exacerbate existing inequity. That doesn't mean there won't continue to be tremendous buy in which will warp our collective culture maintaining it's profitability. If the bubble bursts, I don't think it will be for a while.

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Kyiv does not need 'democracy lessons,' Ukrainian Nobel laureate says

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submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by pieland@piefed.social to c/unpopularopinion@lemmy.world

We don’t write “womb” as “wume”.

I want it to be spelled “consomb”.

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submitted 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) by WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca to c/unpopularopinion@lemmy.world

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I have been with Wal-Mart three times and I'm still working for one today. For the record, I am not here to defend the Waltons and I'm not here to defend the corporate side of the company. I know and understand, after watching the High Cost of Low Prices at least twice, that Wal-Mart has done damage.

However, I've noticed something with Wal-Mart and I have participated with the subreddit regarding the company and read as many disgruntled horror stories of associates who hate where they work. I've noticed that, when you work for an absolute shit store, you're always going to be in for a nightmare of a time.

And that can apply to almost any job in a company that has chain stores. It is just down to luck, really. I know the store I work for, has driven me to my edge multiple times, I've stress-ate so I've gained weight quite considerably, I've been suicidal a few times and I have been through the grind. But I also understand that I can't place all of the blame on the store too because I've yet to have time off that wasn't approved and I've been given a healthy work-life balanced schedule where I can have time and still cover my expenses.

Wal-Mart does offer quite a lot, a fair number of things for associates that are a little too sweet to go without. You just make what you can with them. I've always advised too with associates who hate wal-mart so bad, that they shouldn't quit because the company offers you education. Just go back to school, the company pays for it, you take whatever you need to and get degrees then find another job before ditching Wal-Mart.

It also doesn't hurt to bolster your certifications too by taking on operating machines, that's skills you could put down on your resume, even if you can't carry the certifications out from Wal-Mart.

So yeah, I know the customers are entitled fuckwads, I know some managers are power-tripping pieces of shit, I know that you have a bone to pick with them over this and that. But, I can tell you that I've worked shittier jobs than Wal-Mart. Like, I almost became a call-center employee and I would rather be on the streets than work at those places.

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I was looking at a couple of posts that express feelings of exhaustion and isolation that are extremely prevalent in modern life. And in the comments are people talking about how they're able to deal with those pressures. I don't think that's a real solution to the stated problems. The real solution is replacing the system that demands an exhausting and isolating existence for so many in order to maintain itself.

When someone says he feels alone, it's not helpful to recommend social clubs because the real problem is all the ways modern society inhibits community building and a lot of minor social interaction. When someone says he doesn't feel like he has time to take care of her physical health, it's not helpful to show your schedule to fit it into the busy day because the real solution is having more time available which is only possible if we change modern work culture.

Yes, it's possible for individuals within almost any system to find a stasis where you're able to fulfill your basic mental, social, and physical needs. It's even possible for individuals to thrive. But your solutions only work for you and maybe those with similar material conditions AND cognitive predispositions. Otherwise you're just making excuses for the level of harm modern capitalism places on people everyday.

Take care of yourself and resist where you can.

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There is no debating that feminism was necessary back then. Socially and legally women were at a severe disadvantage and something had to be done. Of course it's a never-ending process as injustice will exist as long as humans exist, but the levels are very different nowadays in western countries compared to developing and exploited countries (no they aren't "developing" they are being held back, but that's a different topic).

At the same time, there was a lot of movement for social awareness and things like free love, queer acceptance, bodily autonomy, anti-racism movements, and a lot more were happening world-wide. France had massive left-wing protests and so did Germany. Many know of the movements in the US Black Panthers, MLK, Woodstock, Free Love, Flower Power, and turmoil that took place after Kennedy was shot in 1963. In Congo Patrice Lumumba was assassinated for his role in the independence of the country (leading to the Congo Crisis), Nigeria had its very own Nnamdi Azikiwe promoting an African Union (which came to be for a short while), and a lot more was happening.

One would have thought the world was going to radically change forever in the 60s, but then, very quickly, the biggest topic became feminism. It was on TVs, talkshows, streets, and much more. While other civil rights movements were being brutally stamped out, somehow feminism got bigger and had major support in the US by the Johnson administration (after Kennedy was shot) and (suprisingly) even the following president: Nixon (although he was still a fucking sleeze).

And thought by the 70s the social movements in the US were declining and still strong in Europe, feminism gained force.

Things have now changed significantly as feminism is now "evil" to right-wingers and religious types (with a return to rhetoric from their antagonists in the 60s) and still serves as a major distraction, but mostly because it is seen as a danger to the elite themselves. For a while, it served its purpose of distracting and also bringing more people into the workforce while successfully forcing the pay of single bread-winner to be insufficient and requiring two. The economical output doubled while remuneration halved (with inflation considered).

The bigger distraction now is "immigration". The elite and uberrich have now successfully shifted the focus away from themselves. Again.

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(Basically a response I made on a community, feel like it belongs here too)

I think toxic podcasts have a big influence on young men, especially those who grew up without strong father figures. My own dad wasn’t perfect (I joke a bit about it on my profile), and many of us went through that risky “2015 phase” of consuming unhealthy online content.

What many politicians and advocates on the left often overlook is that toxic masculinity isn’t solved by telling men to be “less masculine.” You can actually counter unhealthy masculinity with healthy masculinity. Instead of shaming men, we should be teaching a better version of manhood one that includes therapy, emotional intelligence, and being able to talk honestly about what’s going on inside.

As corny as it sounds there’s a reason when there’s a bad take by a misinformed feminist calling all men evil on twitter ganders a response like “This is why men turn right” and sure while that stuff doesn’t work on me anymore, It’s not 2015-2016 there’s still some vulnerable people that unfortunately fall for it, does that mean though that the feminist is wrong in her views? Not really, but I’m not talking about myself I’m talking about a lot of men that do fall for it.

Most working-class men who grind through 9–5 jobs, going from shift to shift, are worried about affordability and stability. If someone comes along and says “I’m going to make your life easier,” that’s who they’ll vote for even if it’s Trump. You can call them naïve or say the leopards ate their face or whatever , but the reality is that many of these men are desperate for change. And they’ll keep voting for whoever promises that change. When society pushes these men aside or dismisses them, some end up looking for someone to blame. That’s when you get people saying, “Women are the reason my life is hard,” or “Jews control everything.”

Of course, some people are genuinely racist or sexist, and there will always be trolls who just want attention. But why do those trolls exist in the first place? Often it’s because they feel insignificant, and attaching themselves to extreme movements gives them a sense of identity and purpose they don’t have otherwise.

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First, so I'm not misunderstood: Science does of course exist and it is not religion. But:

  • Not all published science is, in fact, science. The Replication Crisis is a real problem, meaning that a significant portion of published science is actually incorrect.
  • Only a very tiny portion of the population reads scientific papers and has the ability to understand them. That includes scientists and other well-educated people who don't have any expertise on the specific field. Being a renown physicist doesn't mean you know anything about psychology.
  • Scientific papers are filtered through science journalists who might or might not have any expertise in the field and might or might not understand the papers they write about. They then publish what they understood in a more accessible format (e.g. popular science magazines).
  • This is then read by minimum wage journalists with no understanding of any of the science, and they publish their misunderstandings in newspapers and other non-scientific publications.
  • This is then read by the general public who usually lack the skills and/or the resources to fact-check anything at all.
  • These members of the general public then take what they understood as fact and base their world view on it. At this point it hardly matters whether their source of incorrect information is the stack of Chinese whispers I wrote about above, or if it's just straight-up made up by some religious leader.

There's thousands of little (or big) misunderstandings in non-science that people believe and have faith in, that forms people's world views and even their political views. And people often defend their misconceptions, like they would defend some religious views.

(Again, just to make sure I'm not misunderstood: I am no exception to this either. I got my field where I have a lot of knowledge, but for most fields I blindly trust some experts, because I have no way to verify stuff. I, too, for example, put my faith in doctors to heal my illnesses, even though I have no way to verify whether anything they say is true or not.)

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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by EtnaAtsume@lemmy.world to c/unpopularopinion@lemmy.world

I am not saying that more people using Linux is bad or that people shouldn’t use it (I mean, check my own post history; I am a recent convert myself), but if it reached the kind of saturation that Windows or Apple enjoys, it would bring not liberation but enshittification.

Nor am I trying to be some kind of elitist “the plebs don’t deserrrrrrve it” schlub; hell, I use Linux Mint Cinnamon and have to have a guide to handhold me through all but the most rudimentary, familiar-to-me-as-a-Windows-user tasks.

However.

A bar to entry (even such an ankle-high one as there is now) keeps Linux relatively off the radar of large, moneyed interests that would otherwise descend onto Linux distros and enshittify them in a heartbeat.

In other words, rather than “everyone who uses Linux will then see how bad they’ve had it under Windows and how anti-consumer certain software companies (let’s say Adobe for example) have been treating them!”, the more likely outcome would be “now there is Adobe Photoshop Linux Edition that is exclusive to the paid Adobe Linux distro” or other similar shackles and lockdowns and limitations (for which your credit card is the key), and the alternatives, not having ad money or corporate backing to prop them up, would be left by the wayside as other such enshittified distros/softwares gained users and traction.

Hell, just because a non-enshittified alternative to an enshittified software exists doesn’t mean people will know about or use it. To use an example, Excel is hardly the only way to make a spreadsheet. But it’s the one that is used, taught, known, documented, and widespread. It doesn’t matter that [some other software] is superior in every way if no one knows or cares about it.

Admittedly this is kind of my shower-thought guess and it’s not as if I have sat and thought through this thoroughly, but heck, here we are. Lay it on me.

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