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[-] Veedem@lemmy.world 442 points 1 year ago
[-] Nothingwise@lemmy.world 143 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Firefox + uBlock Origin + arkenfox user.js gives you privacy, security and anti-tracking. The only way to fly IMO.

[-] errer@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago

And a Pi Hole for good measure.

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[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

White list firewall. Because this is the real reason everyone has a right to ad block. Ads are hidden links to other websites. It's like walking through a gauntlet of pick pockets bribing the credit card company just to make it to the checkout at your local grocery store, or some asshole you invite into your home that goes to the bathroom, opens a window, and lets a dozen random people in your home if they pay a dollar for the access. The entire system is based on stalking people. It is criminal.

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[-] nocturne213@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago

I bounced between the two for years, i guess i am going back to Firefox full time.

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[-] raltoid@lemmy.world 287 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The ceo is a bigoted asshole, Brave is chromium, it was initially funded by Peter Thiel and they're literally just trying to make their own adsense network.

The self-proclaimed privacy focused browser is tracking your browsing and want to serve you personalized ads, and I think they want to use that tracking data for AI training as well, meaning other people can potentially access it.

And lets not forget about their crypto currency that you can earn by turning on special ads. Which they seemingly unironically called it "Basic Attent Tokens"..

TL;DR: The company is basically a sham company trying to usher in a dystopia. Where you'll get paid for staring at ads, while having all your data stolen and sold back to you.

[-] sic_1@feddit.de 81 points 1 year ago

I see no reason to use any other browser than Firefox and maybe Librewolf.

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[-] blue_zephyr@lemmy.world 178 points 1 year ago

The fact that their founder wants to ban gay marriage is enough reason for me to avoid it like the plague.

[-] JehovasThickness@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago
[-] blue_zephyr@lemmy.world 77 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He made a thousand dollar donation in support of proposition 8, a constitutional amendment in California that strips gay people of the right to marry. He then proceeded to argue that such a donation does not make him a bigot or an enemy of LGBTQ+ people, because he's a delusional piece of filth.

This effectively prevented gay people from marrying in California from 2008 to 2013 until the fascists that supported it were finally done trying to argue how this doesn't violate the US constitution.

So yeah, may he, his browser, and any pathethic excuse that pretends to be human being who supported this abomination rot in the deepest depths forever.

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[-] rog@lemmy.one 130 points 1 year ago

I dont know why anyone would leave chrome and land on something like brave.

If youre ditching chrome, which you should, go to an actual different browser and use Firefox.

[-] hayes_@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago

Personal anecdote:

When I initially decided to drop Chrome, I moved to Brave because - as a chromium-based browser - it supported the same set of extensions I’d grown accustomed to.

That being said, the crypto stuff weirded me out enough that, once I’d weaned myself off the extensions, I switched to Firefox.

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[-] arc@lemm.ee 116 points 1 year ago

Brave is a marching band of red flags. It claims privacy while injecting ads, affiliate codes and crypto into the browser. It's kind of sad to see someone like Brendan Eich who should know better turn to the dark side and pretend this is all fine. It isn't.

Best advice I could give for anyone who wants privacy is use Firefox or a branch of it. Firefox is out of the box the most privacy conscious mainstream browser and add-ons make it more so. If you want absolute privacy you could even use a derivative like Tor Browser.

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[-] stooovie@lemmy.world 111 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have absolutely no idea how Brave got the reputation it has. It's business model is disgusting and extortionate, it's like paying for warez. Been clear as day since day one.

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[-] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 97 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

At one point they were scummy enough to automatically add their referral codes to any Amazon link you see. Lots of people today still mindlessly recommend Brave, and that's what's wrong in general with the "but the UX is so nice" mentality.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

Lots of people today still mindlessly recommend Brave

It starts to feel astroturfed at a certain point. The last week or so has been crazy.

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[-] CafecitoHippo@lemmy.world 89 points 1 year ago

Yeah, fuck this guy.

First, I have been online for almost 30 years. I’ve led an open source project for 14 years. I speak regularly at conferences around the world, and socialize with members of the Mozilla, JavaScript, and other web developer communities. I challenge anyone to cite an incident where I displayed hatred, or ever treated someone less than respectfully because of group affinity or individual identity.

So I hid my hatred from everyone for 30 years successfully. Now that everyone finds out that I donated to a cause to strip them of rights everyone wants to say I'm hateful? Give me one example where I displayed hatred....how about the time you donated to strip people of their rights? That might be a big one for me.

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[-] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago

The fact that its main 2 gimmicks are a shitty ad blocker and integrated cryptocurrency should be enough of a red flag, honestly. Just use Firefox, people!

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[-] febra@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago

So the CEO is a raging alt-righter. Glad I never used his product then.

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[-] scripthook@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

I just use Firefox and DuckDuckGo

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[-] LittleLordLimerick@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago
[-] Rose@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thanks. Whenever I raised the issue of homophobia or his general support of right-wing causes that threaten people's privacy (see the aftermath of Roe v. Wade for example), I got downvoted, be it on the PrivacyGuides sub where they adore the browser, or right here just weeks ago.

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[-] Shadywack@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

This article is useless trash. There is no real technical argument here except "founder bad".

I do have reasons for not using Brave, but it's to do with the annoying defaults and the crypto integration. They default whitelist Google, LinkedIn, and Facebook garbage that I have to go and toggle off.

Given the level of effort and extensions like Facebook container on Firefox, I just prefer the better experience for me. This bullshit about getting on identity politics agendas I find abhorrent and repulsive. This author's a stupid fuckhead.

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[-] wildcelt@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

I get people wanting an alternative Chromium based browser. Vivaldi, IMO, is a much better than Brave, and doesn't have all the annoying crypto weirdness.

I don't use either, though, I use Firefox

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[-] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 year ago

Oh boy, this comment section is gonna be spicy. I can already smell the smoke from the Brave enthusiasts heads exploding.

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[-] rodolfo@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

I've read the article via Firefox, with NoScript enabled. Am I doing this right?

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[-] danhab99@programming.dev 28 points 1 year ago

Why was appointing Eich as CEO so controversial? It's because he donated $1,000 in support of California's Proposition 8 in 2008, which was a proposed amendment to California's state constitution to ban same-sex marriage.

Besides this I cannot find another good reason not to use brave. Nobody point to a specific line of code that ruins privacy, not enough reasons.

[-] charonn0@startrek.website 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Good enough for this gay Californian.

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[-] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

I use Brave as a backup browser. My main one is Firefox.

You can turn off the crypto stuff. You don't have to use Brave Shields (in browser ad blocker). It can be turned off. Now you can use uBlock Origin or another ad blocker.

About the CEO, I can't see nothing about his beliefs reflecting in his work. Looks like he kept them separated. I'm not for said beliefs.

[-] InfiniteFlow@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

That you can is besides the point. You shouldn’t need to. If the first thing I need to think about after installing it is “well, let’s see what garbage is in here that I need to turn off”, then any trust I would have for it has already gone out the window. Especially important odor a browser where that is kind of the main differentiating aspect.

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[-] barberousse@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 year ago

Long time Brave user here. This made me uninstall Brave and move to Firefox. Thank you !

[-] xaxl@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Just because something is open source doesn't mean the people behind it have the best intentions in mind.

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[-] 0oWow@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

"If someone recommends Brave to you, you should ignore them, because they are wrong."


I stopped reading here. If you would like to present objective technical arguments, please try not to sound like a 5 year old "I'm right, you're wrong, blah blah".

Use Brave or use Firefox. They both work great for privacy, but I find Brave is easier to configure to be private.

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[-] CaptainStrider@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Firefox works well enough for me. Never given me any problems or grief. I don't really understand the fascination with chromium forks or the insistence on using them instead of Mozilla's engine.

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