[-] Rose@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago

If you're talking about the upvotes and the supportive comments, I'm not even sure they reflect how the community would feel had they seen the full sequence of events* leading up to that decision.

As I previously mentioned, seemingly the first comment to start the chain of !vegan moderators' and subsequent Rooki actions was the impolite "don't force your shit on them" one-line comment by a user first exonerated, but later banned for trolling in another community by none other than Rooki.

The vegan comments were way lengthier, containing balanced ("it's important to do a bit of extra research", "cat nutrition is too complicated to be trying to make at home") and seemingly thoughtful takes with a link to the NCBI.

Conversely, Rooki's line of arguing contained little but outbursts like "have a nice rest of your life knowing you killed your loved pet" and "If anyone else thinks pets should be vegan i have no problem banning them for being a troll and promoting killing pets", with unsubstantiated yet specific claims like "YES cats can survive vegan diet for few months".

Sure, Rooki admitted to being emotional and said sorry after my post asking for their removal, but what's the weight of that apology if the new rules echo those same talking points, from "misinformation" to the quite specific example "Unhealthy diets, e.g. due to insufficient nutrients"?

*Screenshots sent to me by a !vegan mod after my post - verifiable via the public modlog.

[-] Rose@lemmy.world 54 points 2 weeks ago

As noted in my post on the "moderation incident", by adding more subjectivity to the rules, you are opening the door to even more instance moderator misconduct. There is already evidence of how that would go.

Rooki felt it right to intervene in the !vegan cat food thread (and got a pat on the back with the new rules made to justify their actions), then not only took no issue with comments like "Meat is not something diabetics need to worry about." but also fueled the fire in the same thread by saying "To be honest linking something like meat to death of people is like saying everybody that breathed air died."

So much for taking action against harmful dietary advice.

[-] Rose@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

Meanwhile Lemmy.World moderator Rooki:

To be honest linking something like meat to death of people is like saying everybody that breathed air died.

correlation != causation

(comment source, thread archive)

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submitted 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) by Rose@lemmy.world to c/vegan@lemmy.world

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/18829828

In my view as a long-time moderator, the purpose of moderation is conflict resolution and ensuring the sitewide rules are followed. As reported today by !vegan@lemmyworld, moderator Rooki's vision appears to be that their personal disagreement with someone else's position takes priority over the rules and is enough to remove comments in a community they don't moderate, remove its moderators for the comments, and effectively resort to hostile takeover by posting their own comment with an opposing view (archived here) and elevating it for visiblity.

The removed comments relate to vegan cat food. As seen in the modlog, Rooki removed a number of pretty balanced comments explaining that while there are problematic ways to feed cats vegan, if done properly, cats can live on vegan cat food. Though it is a controversial position even among vegans, there is scientific research supporting it, like this review from 2023 or the papers co-authored by professor Andrew Knight. These short videos could also work as a TL;DR of his knowledge on the matter. As noted on Wikipedia, some of the biggest animal advocacy organizations support the notion of vegan cat food, while others do not. Vegan pet food brands, including Ami, Evolution Diet, and Benevo have existed for years and are available throughout the world, clearly not prohibited by law in countries with laws against animal abuse.

To summarize, even if you don't agree with the position of vegan cat food being feasible, at the very least you have to acknowledge that the matter is not clear-cut. Moreover, there is no rule of lemmy.world that prohibits those types of conversations unless making a huge stretch to claim that it falls under violent content "promoting animal abuse" in the context of "excessive gore" and "dismemberment".

For the sake of the argument, even if we assume that the truth is fully on Rooki's side and discussions of vegan cat food is "being a troll and promoting killing pets", the sitewide rules would have to be updated to reflect this view, and create a dangerous precedent, enabling banning for making positive comments about junk food (killing yourself), being parents who smoke (killing your kids), being religious "because it's not scientific" and so on. Even reddit wouldn't go that far, and there are plenty of conversations on vegan cat food on reddit.

Given Rooki's behavior and that it has already resulted in forcing the vegan community out of lemmy.world and with more likely to follow, I believe the only right course of action is to remove them as a moderator to help restore the community's trust in the platform and reduce the likelihood of similar events in the future.

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Botting be like (lemmy.world)
submitted 2 months ago by Rose@lemmy.world to c/canvas@toast.ooo

The rectangle was placed by piXelBow@toast.ooo, with the pixel times sometimes matching to the millisecond.

[-] Rose@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

Its Russian founder recently praised Musk in an interview for Tucker Carlson.

[-] Rose@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago

Worse than merely being homophobic, as he financially supported politicians and causes that worked to prevent equal rights.

[-] Rose@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

“Impairment means something is there, it’s being used, it just isn’t as good. Prevented means you shut it down.”

Epic’s expert Bernheim argues that Google’s expert Gentzkow “ignores four critical aspects of Google’s conduct,” including:

  1. Google impairs competition without preventing it entirely

  2. Google’s conduct targets comeptition as it emerges

  3. Google is dominant

  4. Google shares its Play profits with its competitors

“When push came to shove, he talked about whether competition is prevented” rather than impaired, says Bernheim.

The upshot of that: Bernheim believes Epic doesn’t need to prove Google actually blocked competition entirely. In his opinion (for Epic), Epic only needs to show there were no good alternatives to Google Play and Google Play Billing. It doesn’t need to show there were no alternatives at all.

For example, says Bernheim, Gentzkow presented a chart titled “Was Fortnite Blocked?” showing that revenue tanked on Google Play after the app was kicked off the store, but didn’t tank for Android phones that got Fortnite a different way.

But “If off-Google Play was a good substitute for Google Play, you’d see when one drops, the other goes up commensurably.” That didn’t happen: demand stayed stable outside of Play, according to the bar graph we just saw. “There’s no indication that any of the people here are substituting to off-Google Play.”

[-] Rose@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

Sure, but Valve essentially reserve the right to no longer sell your game if it's offered cheaper elsewhere. See the quotes on pages 54 through 56 of the complaint.

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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by Rose@lemmy.world to c/patientgamers@lemmy.ml
  • Saturnalia
  • Salt and Sacrifice
  • Ghostbusters: Spirits Unleashed
  • Railgrade
  • Ooblets
  • Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1+2
  • Mythforce
  • Saints Row
  • Arcadegeddon
  • Monopoly Madness
  • Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six® Extraction
  • Riders Republic
  • Vampire: The Masquerade - Swansong
  • Magic The Gathering: Arena
  • Far Cry 6
  • Voidtrain
  • Darkest Dungeon 2
  • Galactic Civilizations IV
  • Evil Dead: The Game
  • Pinball FX
  • STRANGER OF PARADISE FINAL FANTASY ORIGIN
  • Sifu
  • Omen of Sorrow
  • Phantom Brigade
  • Sonic Colors Ultimate
  • Trackmania
  • Jett: The Far Shore
  • Watch_Dogs: Legion
  • Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon® Breakpoint
  • Tom Clancy’s The Division® 2
  • Scott Pilgrim vs. The World: The Game
[-] Rose@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

I have no idea why this is newsworthy. Epic's own 2019 documents and testimony in the Apple trial showed that the company did not expect the store to be profitable until 2024 or even 2027. The strategy of heavy investment and operating at a loss to turn a profit later worked for Spotify, Netflix, Microsoft, and many others. Even this week, there are headlines like "Elon Musk Says SpaceX's Starlink Achieves Breakeven Cash Flow".

[-] Rose@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago
[-] Rose@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Look up the paradox of tolerance.

[-] Rose@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

The website is run by an employee of Brave, but if you look past the order, even by their criteria Mullvad is ahead.

[-] Rose@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thanks. Whenever I raised the issue of homophobia or his general support of right-wing causes that threaten people's privacy (see the aftermath of Roe v. Wade for example), I got downvoted, be it on the PrivacyGuides sub where they adore the browser, or right here just weeks ago.

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You outdid reddit (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 year ago by Rose@lemmy.world to c/canvas@toast.ooo

For one, there was nothing about PG-13 in the rules, which are limited to

  • No hateful imagery
  • No NSFL content

What exactly is hateful or not safe for life in a documentary that has been available on YouTube since 2018? Why did you come up with new rules just to get this banned?

Moreover, even reddit effectively allowed the QR code to persist through the entirety of r/place. Search for "dominion" on Place Atlas to confirm.

It took 7 hours of manual clicking every minute to get this built, despite being griefed by a person using three accounts (which I guess is fine by the rules). Thanks.

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