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[-] Fleur_@aussie.zone 6 points 6 days ago

Switched to windows 10 a month or so ago just for ease of use with video games and mods. Man does windows suck ass. Wants to open random web pages, use dumb AI tools and give me useless info on every empty inch of screen space . At the end of the day it works but quality of life is low.

[-] crisis@lemmy.today 3 points 6 days ago

ExplorerPatcher https://github.com/valinet

Been using it for a few months, quite happy. Does not seem to spike CPU with my settings

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 324 points 1 week ago

Holy fucking shit this isn't just a meme, wtaf is going on at Microsoft.

The FOSS aficionados of Lemmy will probably be quick to tell me it's always been shit, but this seems like a marked increase in bad decisions in the past 5-10 years

[-] brot@feddit.org 256 points 1 week ago

If you go back to an older version of Windows, it becomes clear how bad Microsoft has become. Try Windows 95 and you'll be surprised how clean it is. How few distractions the OS is showing into your face. How tidy the menus are and they also give you little hints for the keyboard shortcuts

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 136 points 1 week ago

little hints for the keyboard shortcuts

FYI, those are called menu mnemonics. 😊

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 111 points 1 week ago
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[-] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 72 points 1 week ago

I look forward to a glirchy vibe coded OS that uses embeded AI for everything, yet some people still manage to turn into a demented semi-functional ecosystem. Probably mostly run by seniors and computer illiterate consumers who just "want latest tech" for bragging rights.

[-] RobertoOberto@sh.itjust.works 53 points 1 week ago

glirchy

I love it when typos create new words that fit so well.

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[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I used to do V Dash contracts for MSFT.

I knew that the Xbox 360 3RR, red ring of death problem... was so bad, that it actually would have been more cost effective for MSFT to give each buyer two 360s, instead of one, at the same price, because of how mismanaged the RMA process was... I knew a whole bunch of such details a almost a decade before the documentary on it came out.

Yay NDAs.

...

I was also there during the Windows 8 rollout.

Shut down basically everything for a month, because MSFT 'dogfoods' all their software: Every MSFT worker is beta/alpha testing all MSFT software all the time.

We spent weeks just, unable to have more than 3 windows open at a time, half the tools we used on a daily basis just not working.

We asked them to let us go back to 7, asked them if therr was some way to return to a 7 like GUI.

For weeks they said nope, impossible, Win 8 is an entirely new GUI, totally new OS, the Win 7 GUI isn't there.

Oh then uh, weeks later, yeah, yeah it actually is there, you just have to follow this arcane override proceduren to see and use it.

... And then they just relented, put the non tablet UI fully back in, and called that Windows 8.1.

...

Windows is now layers upon layers upon decades of insane spaghetti code.

Even in Win 10, which was the last version I ever used... there are like 3 or 4 different eras of UI, for various settings menus, which people sometimes need to actually use... but they are considered legacy and thus not important.

Sometimes some newer era UI menus will have some of the options from some of the more buried stuff, but not all of them.

It is a gigantic fucking mess.

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[-] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh how I miss the beautiful simplicity of Win95/98/NT UIs. It seems as our screens have become larger, they found more shit to put on them that I don't want to see.

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[-] Jaderick@lemmy.world 54 points 1 week ago

Business majors.

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[-] meowmeowbeanz@sopuli.xyz 188 points 1 week ago

Oh, but it absolutely is true. Microsoft really did decide to use React Native for parts of the Windows 11 Start menu. They're also using it in sections of the Settings app.

The technical reality is even more absurd than the meme suggests. Microsoft is currently maintaining eight different UI frameworks for Windows, including their own .NET MAUI and WinUI 3 that were specifically built for their OS. Yet somehow they thought, "You know what this native operating system needs? A JavaScript framework originally designed for mobile apps."

The CPU usage spikes aren't necessarily from React Native itself being particularly heavyweight, but rather from the fundamental architectural choice of running a web-based rendering engine for core system UI elements. Every time you click Start, you're essentially launching a mini web application just to display a menu.

What's particularly galling is that Microsoft has acknowledged WinUI's performance issues for years, to the point where they recommend their partners use the older WPF for performance-critical applications. So instead of fixing their native framework, they decided to add another layer of abstraction.

This is what happens when corporate development teams prioritize "developer experience" and trendy frameworks over system efficiency. Richard Stallman's expression in that image perfectly captures the appropriate level of technical horror at this decision.

The old world built operating systems. The new world builds web apps that pretend to be operating systems.

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[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 142 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I have a Windows laptop for the first time in well over a decade for a project I am working on. Even though it is overpowered (i7, 64gb ram), and it is currently "idle", the cooling fans are working overtime because the damn OS is always busy doing some random shit when "idle". This is AFTER I ran a debloat script. It was near impossible to use before then.

EDIT: I found the cause of the fanning issue and different behavior between Win 11 and Linux (Pop!_OS). Even though the laptop comes with an Nvidia RTX 4000 series GPU, Windows 11 set the global default GPU to be the integrated graphics (Intel UHD). The same laptop under Pop!_OS automatically set the default GPU to Nvidia. As soon as I dug this up and switched the settings to Nvidia, the laptop stopped fanning full speed nonstop.

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[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 93 points 1 week ago

Seriously? Got a link for that? (Not in a “I don’t believe you” way, but more of an “I’m curious to learn more” way)

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 80 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Somehow this is hard to google, so sorry for linking to reddit, but here's a thread where people are discussing it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comments/1ctuz4w/the_recommended_section_in_start_menu_is_actually/

(edit: looks like someone found a better source elsewhere in the comments)

[-] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 week ago

Not to mention the memory leak and how the "Start" process in Task Manager increase RAM usage every time you click that.

LOL

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[-] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 68 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Fuck JavaScript in all its forms.

Ok, in a browser is fine. But HARD pass on electron and all this bullshit

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[-] d00ery@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Recently something has changed and the start menu likes to search for apps in its browser (not my default app). I used to press windows key then type "snip" for the screenshot tool, now half of the time is does the wrong thing ...

Also here's a link to post talking about react in the start menu https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30384494

[-] SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah. It's quite obnoxious how bad they've made their OS and it's obvious they are FARMING searches on bing with these tactics lmao

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[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago

It's why I'm gonna change to Linux permanently come the end of Win10.

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[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago

And it's a terrible app, at that. No organization, just either some random application links, or one giant list with no categories or organization past alphabetical.

[-] nuko147@lemm.ee 46 points 1 week ago

New CPU benchmark: 100 start menu clicks per second.

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[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Don't they have like 9 graphics libraries and frameworks accross 4 languages already?

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 93 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
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