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I used to self-host because I liked tinkering. I worked tech support for a municipal fiber network, I ran Arch, I enjoyed the control. The privacy stuff was a nice bonus but honestly it was mostly about having my own playground. That changed this week when I watched ICE murder a woman sitting in her car. Before you roll your eyes about this getting political - stay with me, because this is directly about the infrastructure we're all running in our homelabs. Here's what happened: A woman was reduced to a data point in a database - threat assessment score, deportation priority level, case number - and then she was killed. Not by some rogue actor, but by a system functioning exactly as designed. And that system? Built on infrastructure provided by the same tech companies most of us used to rely on before we started self-hosting. Every service you don't self-host is a data point feeding the machine. Google knows your location history, your contacts, your communications. Microsoft has your documents and your calendar. Apple has your photos and your biometrics. And when the government comes knocking - and they are knocking, right now, today - these companies will hand it over. They have to. It's baked into the infrastructure. Individual privacy is a losing game. You can't opt-out of surveillance when participation in society requires using their platforms. But here's what you can do: build parallel infrastructure that doesn't feed their systems at all. When you run Nextcloud, you're not just protecting your files from Google - you're creating a node in a network they can't access. When you run Vaultwarden, your passwords aren't sitting in a database that can be subpoenaed. When you run Jellyfin, your viewing habits aren't being sold to data brokers who sell to ICE. I watched my local municipal fiber network get acquired by TELUS. I watched a piece of community infrastructure get absorbed into the corporate extraction machine. That's when I realized: we can't rely on existing institutions to protect us. We have to build our own. This isn't about being a prepper or going off-grid. This is about building infrastructure that operates on fundamentally different principles:

Communication that can't be shut down: Matrix, Mastodon, email servers you control

File storage that can't be subpoenaed: Nextcloud, Syncthing

Passwords that aren't in corporate databases: Vaultwarden, KeePass

Media that doesn't feed recommendation algorithms: Jellyfin, Navidrome

Code repositories not owned by Microsoft: Forgejo, Gitea

Every service you self-host is one less data point they have. But more importantly: every service you self-host is infrastructure that can be shared, that can support others, that makes the parallel network stronger. Where to start if you're new:

Passwords first - Vaultwarden. This is your foundation. Files second - Nextcloud. Get your documents out of Google/Microsoft. Communication third - Matrix server, or join an existing instance you trust. Media fourth - Jellyfin for your music/movies, Navidrome for music.

If you're already self-hosting:

Document your setup. Write guides. Make it easier for the next person. Run services for friends and family, not just yourself. Contribute to projects that build this infrastructure. Support municipal and community network alternatives.

The goal isn't purity. You're probably still going to use some corporate services. That's fine. The goal is building enough parallel infrastructure that people have actual choices, and that there's a network that can't be dismantled by a single executive order. I'm working on consulting services to help small businesses and community organizations migrate to self-hosted alternatives. Not because I think it'll be profitable, but because I've realized this is the actual material work of resistance in 2025. Infrastructure is how you fight infrastructure. We're not just hobbyists anymore. Whether we wanted to be or not, we're building the resistance network. Every Raspberry Pi running services, every old laptop turned into a home server, every person who learns to self-host and teaches someone else - that's a node in a system they can't control. They want us to be data points. Let's refuse.

What are you running? What do you wish more people would self-host? What's stopping people you know from taking this step?

EDIT: Appreciate the massive response here. To the folks in the comments debating whether I’m an AI: I’m flattered by the grammar check, but I'm just a guy in his moms basement with too much coffee and a background in municipal networking. If you think "rule of three" sentences are exclusive to LLMs, wait until you hear a tech support vet explain why your DNS is broken for the fourth time today.

More importantly, a few people asked about a "0 to 100" guide - or even just "0 to 50" for those who don't want to become full time sysadmins. After reading the suggestions, I want to update my "Where to start" list. If you want the absolute fastest, most user-friendly path to getting your data off the cloud this weekend, do this:

The Core: Install CasaOS, or the newly released (to me) ZimaOS. It gives you a smartphone style dashboard for your server. It’s the single best tool I’ve found for bridging the technical gap. It's appstore ecosystem is lovely to use and you can import docker compose files really easily.

The Photos: Use Immich. Syncthing is great for raw sync, but Immich is the first thing I’ve seen that actually feels like a near 1:1 replacement for Google Photos (AI tagging, map view, etc.) without the privacy nightmare.

The Connection: Use Tailscale. It’s a zero-config VPN that lets you access your stuff on the go without poking holes in your firewall.

I’m working on a Privacy Stack type repo that curates these one click style tools specifically to help people move fast. Infrastructure is only useful if people can actually use it. Stay safe out there.

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[-] morto@piefed.social 10 points 3 months ago

Don't stop at self-hosting. We need all forms of community building, from organizing like-minded people to gardening, off-grid energy, etc.

[-] marighost@piefed.social 5 points 3 months ago

I agree with your post 100% I think. Removing oneself from big tech/data services like Google and Microsoft is resisting the regime. It's especially useful for folks that may not be able to get out and protest, meet with their representatives, etc.

As for me, I'm running my *arr/media stack for myself and my close friends and family. Fuck Disney, Netflix, and Paramount. For our household, HomeAssistant keeps the lights on and SyncThing backs up our files to the NAS.

[-] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Quick question. Home assistant.

We are hooked on "Hey Google turn off the lights"

Is there a way to remove the Google from that but still use the voice aspect?

Edit: great!!!! Thanks for the direction folks!!!

[-] kumi@feddit.online 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yes, Home Assistant has this.

https://rhasspy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

Works great. My biggest challenge was finding a decent microphone setup and ended up like many do with old Playstation 3 webcams. That was a while back and I would guess it's easier to find something more appropriate today.

[-] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 1 points 3 months ago

Home Assistant has its own locally running voice assistant. There's even hardware for it (think self hosted Alexa) that you can buy or build yourself

[-] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

Oh great! I'll check it out!

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[-] h333d@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Spot on. Self-hosting is the most effective form of quiet, material protest we have. Every time your family uses Syncthing instead of OneDrive, you’re starving the machine of the telemetry it needs to function.

Running that stack for your inner circle is essentially building a "digital mutual aid" node. You're taking the burden of surveillance off their backs and putting it on your own hardware where you can actually defend it. That's the work.

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[-] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 months ago

On the one hand I do support the existence of open-source self-hostable alternatives to surveillance-capitalist offerings. But at the same time it has been driving me crazy how many things are being shifted toward this server-based architecture. For one example, I want an open-source app that will allow me to import recipes from any text or website automatically. But I want those recipes to save in files, be offline, and I do not want to maintain a whole damn server just to manage my fucking recipes.

Not everything needs to be web connected by default, and most people have no interest in running any kind of server.

[-] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 3 points 3 months ago

Hell yeah! I'd argue it's even true of 2026!

[-] q7mJI7tk1@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I was just thinking this week, that those who self host (and more importantly, those who program the code we self host), are at the front line of the modern digital resistance: in the sense that the world is burning due to the greed of the tech bros that run our daily lives. Convienience for the masses is what gives them power over us, and any one who rejects their systems is helping to fight back.

Voting with your wallet helps, so not giving them your money is the first step. Then managing and keeping your own data private is the next one.

[-] teolan@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Just FYI unless you self-host headscale, tailscale is centralised and not private. They claim it is end to end encrypted but their proprietary centralised control server distributes the keys, so they could very easily MITM you.

Tailscale is good tech and good crypto, but Applied cryptography cannot solve a security problem. It can only convert a security problem into a key-management problem, and tailscale does not do decentralised key management.

[-] fort_burp@feddit.nl 2 points 3 months ago

Are you serious? I had no idea Tailscale was a "trust me bro" kind of operation. I've always heard "serious" people boosting it.

[-] teolan@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Well they are a serious company with serious engineering capabilities. Just know that whoever runs the control server can control your network, and almost everyone uses Tailscale's centralised control server, so they control the networks of almost all of their customers. Most of their customers are for internal use by companies which don't care about relying on SaaS products. But if you self-host for resilience, using Tailscale doesn't make much sense without also self-hosting the control server through the unofficial headscale implementation.

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[-] antrosapien@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Along with headscale, I have also hosted Pangolin instance. Multi network setup with docker

[-] Butterphinger@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago

Come to i2p, fam.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago

Don't use tailscale, a few years back they moved their server storage from Canada to the USA. Use headscle or wireguard if you are tech savvy

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[-] regedit@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago

Been wondering for a while if it was worth sticking around on this plane of existence. Feeling like nothing was going to get any easier or better, wondering if my life would just be watching horror rafter horror until the tech I loved stop working and the world went dark as they came for me and mine.

Then I saw Benn Jordan's Anarchist Gift Guide video and realized the same thing as you: I may not have a lot of skills to offer the world, but I'm neurodivergent, a sysadmin for higher ed, and (used to, at least) like to tinker. I realized my disdain for the humanitarian and moral failings of the system we currently reside in could be married to my hobbies and feel like I was doing something more than just protesting, donating, and waiting to die.

My goals are to fix up my home environment, get my 3D printers working, set up an exercise area, set up a Meshtastic relay and other support networks for my local area, update a media server for friends and family to enjoy, including a request system, and do anything else along the way the provide a system of communication and sanity that removes as much reliance on the government and corporations as I can.

It finally got me to fix some bugs in existing services I already manage and this weekend my wife and I are starting the work on the exercise room, for the benefit of our bodies. Not saying Benn's video saved my life, but it gave me a purpose, again, in a world that feels increasingly aimed at reducing me to a sad data point on some graph. I hate what this world has become and avoid social media at all costs, but now I can do something locally that will feel like I'm doing something to help.

I have a particular set of skills that make me a nightmare for groups like ICE. I just need coffee, my ADHD meth, and some weed gummies to see it through. Thanks for posting this! I will save it and refer to it as I go.

[-] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Prescription meth does wonders for focus. Lol

I'm riding the same struggle bus and there are a lot of us. More like a struggle cruisliner, or struggle ark. Keep up the fight. I know it's exhausting, but don't let the bastards drag you down.

[-] MoffKalast@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

In a fascistic enough world where this would matter, people who abstain from the system are automatically flagged to be shot too, just fyi. You gotta also fill the normie services with conformist content to not become a detected anomaly if you really want to do it properly.

[-] h333d@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

This is the "Gray Man" strategy. If you have zero digital footprint in 2026, that absence of data becomes a data point itself. Anomalies get investigated.

I think we need to separate Camouflage from Logistics.

I’m not suggesting you delete your digital existence and live in a Faraday cage. By all means, keep the normie accounts. Post the cat photos on Instagram. Keep a Gmail address for the spam. Feed the algorithm just enough "conformist" content to look boring. That is your camouflage.

But Resistance Infrastructure isn't about hiding, it's about capability.

It’s about ensuring that when the "system" decides to de-platform your community group, or lock your bank account, or shut off the internet in your region during a protest, you still have a way to function.

[-] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 months ago

Great points, and there's some amazing discussions going on here!

One thing I'd like to add is EVERYONE needs to start setting up some meshtastic nodes. It's really easy to setup (just hook up a USB cable from your computer to a esp32 board, visit a website to get the configuration, and that's pretty much it), it's cheap (as little as $30) and it is secure. Build 2 nodes (one to leave at home, and another for your backpack). This way you'll be able to communicate should the Internet become unavailable or unsafe. You can also use this at a protest so that you still have a means of communication without needing to bring your phone that the Feds will be able to track.

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

In the spirit of OP's post:

Do we have a good repository of good guides that can walk noobs through from 0-100?

[-] eronth@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Or even, like, 0 to 50.

[-] BromSwolligans@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Google the FUTO Guide to a Self Managed Life. Louis Rossman far overstates how simple it is ("if it was too complicated for my grandma I rewrote it until it was something she could handle" is giving himself too much credit) but it is still a super super comprehensive guide anyone should be able to follow for getting an exceptional amount of home infrastructure self hosted. It includes owning and managing your own router, setting up a VPN to get your services away from home, setting up replacements for all the cloud services 99% of us rely on, and goes as far as self hosting security cameras and PBX phone systems and stuff. If you get that far into the guide, even if you don't wanna run those things, you'll have learned enough to host anything else you want.

[-] batman0730@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

100%

I do find it funny that I offer so many friends and family access to these services, and they generally just take the accounts and never use them.

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

How can I learn more about this stuff because I think like a lot of people I’m not that tech savvy

[-] RattleSnack@leminal.space 2 points 3 months ago

I'm not tech savvy either. but it has been fun trying to figure the basics out, and researching all of this has been way better for my mental health than consuming endless social media.

[-] furby@infosec.pub 1 points 3 months ago

My excuse was I don't act for what I believe in because I don't know how to. Your post showed me, I kinda do. I was doing it already, I should double down on it and most important help others on their journey. You're a force multiplier today. Tomorrow some folks who read your post will be as well.

[-] h333d@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

That means a lot, the force multiplier thing is exactly why I posted this. Building for yourself is a great start, but bringing others along with you is how we actually scale the resistance. We need more nodes in the network, so keep doubling down.

[-] Blip6338@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

For those of you who are interested in this but don't know where to start I think https://www.freedombox.org/ may be a good starting point. It's been around for a long time, provides easy enough installation and a nice web interface for management. Its based on Debian and you can give it a try on their demo.

Also the vision for the project aligns pretty much with what op is saying https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/Vision

[-] Saltycracker@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I’m glad you are starting to tinker and using privacy tools. It is always nice to see someone go down the rabbit hole/journey. Been on this journey myself since 2012. When it comes to social media nostr is also a go one to self host. It is a protocol.

[-] talkingpumpkin@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

TLDR: Protesting or resisting privately inside your house does not lead to social change and is not the most rational way of protecting yourself if you feel threatened by your government.

Self-hosting is not "resistance": at most, it's prepping for nerds, with computers instead of guns.

Self-hosting is not even a rational/efficient way of making a statement. If that's what you want, it's far more efficient to follow the established tradition of declaring you are moving to Canada and not following up with actual actions.

Don't get me wrong: I can relate to the nerdy way of coping with the ugliness around us (I say "us", but thankfully I don't live in the US), but - the way I see it - it's that your society that needs change, and self hosting won't help with that.

Frankly, the shit you US people are putting up with is unreal.

It has always been (~~US police forces kill far more people than the overall homicide rate in Europe - read that again and pause a second to think about it~~ this isn't true - see comments below), and it's just getting worse.

If you feel threatened you can essentially respond by fighting, fleeing, or cowering.

If you wanna FIGHT (this is what "resistance" is about), try to use whatever power you have and apply your energies to bring actual change. If you don't feel comfortable acting outdoors, this could include lending your nerd skills to protesters or (nonviolent) resistance groups. Heck, even being a keyboard warrior is more useful to changing society than being a hobbyist sysadmin.

If you wanna FLEE, just leave the country. Honestly, there are better places to live than the US, and (if you have or plan to have any) better places to raise your children.

If you wanna COWER, then be a prepper or a self-hoster or whatever, but be aware that, while misrepresenting your reaction as "resistance" may make you feel more heroic than you are, spreading the misrepresentation can also lead others to cower instead of fighting. Is that what you want?

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 3 months ago

Gonna be awful hard to organize resistance when the administration decides to cut everyone off from all the centralized means of doing so. The time to set up decentralized mesh networks is now.

[-] Cruel@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago

US police forces kill far more people than the overall homicide rate in Europe

How are you calculating this? Doesn't seem right.

2024 was the worst year with 1,365 police killings in the US. That's around 4 people for every million. Per capita this is a rate 8x that of France which I believe has the most police killings in Europe.

General European homicide rates vary on countries from 5 (Swiss) to 42 (Latvian) per million. It's higher than the rate of police killings in the US.

However, the general homicide rate in the US is like 6x the European rate.

I only briefly checked the numbers, I hope I didn't get anything wrong.

[-] talkingpumpkin@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

IDK where I've read that... should have double checked before posting, my bad.

Quick fact checking:

US police kills some 1,281 people last year (wikipedia).

1,281/340,110,988*100,000 gives around 0.38 police killings/100,000 people, which is below homicide rate in EU.

I couldn't (be bothered to) find out what the overall European homicide rate actually is (it also depends on what you count as "Europe"), but Germany is at around 0.8, France at 1.8, Italy at 0.57, Spain at 0.9 and Poland at 0.8 (these are the five most populous countries). So... let's guesstimate it at around 1? (numbers are from this random source).

We can conclude that US policemen are roughly 38% as deadly as European criminals (if it wasn't clear, this last statement is a joke)

[-] SleepyPie@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Preparation is part of fighting.

Pretty sure the Iranian protesters would benefit from private infra now that the internet is shut down.

Getting graphite OS phones can let you do all sorts of neat things like duress pins etc.

The average person is forming their activist plans on WhatsApp and Discord, and that’s going to be a problem. I remember all those kids in Hong Kong getting scooped up because the government was reading their texts and hacking their phones.

Don’t downplay what you can contribute.

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This brand of argument is basically 'If you can't do everything perfectly, then it is pointless to do anything especially the thing that you're suggesting.'

You see this person in every thread on every topic where people discuss things that they can contribute their expertise to. Their message is 'it is hopeless, your plan won't work, give up what you're doing, you don't stand a chance'.

Honestly, and forgive the langue, but fuck those people. You know what your strengths are and what you're capable of, not some faceless bot pushing violent political rhetoric who is, by its own admissions, not in the US.

If you don't want to participate in the tech landscape as it exists today, there is absolutely nothing wrong about avoiding it entirely and building something else. Companies will not be so complacent about their position in the market if they know there's a completely Free alternative that does everything that they charge a subscription for.

The people who are doing self-hosting today are exactly like the early adopters of the smartphone or any other technology. There's always people trying new things and sometimes they succeed.

People who are using privacy focused approaches to personal technology, like self-hosting, are beta testing the ability to use cheap, mass produced hardware and open source software to build a product ecosystem that meets their needs. That progress is enjoyed by anybody in the future who decides they also want to leave the walled gardens of Tech Giantopia.

[-] irmadlad@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

To the folks in the comments debating whether I’m an AI: I’m flattered by the grammar check

This is the world we live in. If you can actually string words together into grammatically correct sentences, then you are AI. It matters not whether you are or you aren't. Like the witch hunts of Salem, all that is necessary is the accusation. I personally don't care if you used AI, the message resonates. Don't let 'em give you shit about your pony tail.

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[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Communication that can't be shut down: Matrix, Mastodon, email servers you control

Uh, those can all be shut down. You may control the server but you don't control the datacenter the email server lives in, unless you're hosting out of your house, which is a bad idea. You also don't control the pipes to and from these servers. There have been many plans over the years requiring that ISPs ban users who are accused of copyright infringement. And, even if you don't infringe copyrights, we all know about how the DMCA can be weaponized against people who have done nothing wrong.

File storage that can't be subpoenaed: Nextcloud, Syncthing

Sorry, your own file storage can be subpoenaed, you just don't have a lawyer on call to help you through the process. If you think "haha, I'll just delete the data", you can be in much worse trouble. AFAIK in some cases the judge / jury are allowed to assume that evidence that you deleted was incriminating.

I self-host things and think it's a good idea. But, don't go overboard with how good it is. It's still vulnerable to government and corporate actions. in many cases you're more vulnerable because you're on your own, you probably don't have a lawyer on retainer, etc.

[-] Disillusionist@piefed.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Thank you for kicking this hornet's nest. There is a lot of great info and enthusiasm here, all of which is sorely needed.

We have massive and widespread attention paid to every cause under the sun by social and traditional media, with movements and protests (deservedly) filling the streets. Yet this issue which is as central and crucial to our freedoms as any rights currently being fought for (it intersects with each of them directly), continues to be sidelined and given the foil hat treatment.

We can't even adequately talk about things like disinformation, political extremism, and even mental health without addressing the role our technologies play, which has been hijacked by these bad actors, robber barons selling us ease and convenience and promises of bright, shiny, and Utopian futures while conning us out of our liberty.

With the widespread, rapidly declining state of society, and the dramatic rise and spread of technologies like AI, there has never been a more urgent need to act collectively against these invasive practices claiming every corner of our lives.

We need those of you recognize this crisis for what it is, we need your voices in the discussions surrounding the many problems and challenges we face at this critical moment. We need public awareness to have hope of changing this situation for the better.

As many of you have pointed out, the most immediate step we need to take is disengagement with the products and services that are surveiling, exploiting, and manipulating us. Look to alternatives, ask around, don't be afraid to try something new. Deprive them of both your engagement and your data.

Keep going, keep resisting, do the small things you can do. As the saying goes, small things add up over time. Keep going.

[Edited slightly for clarity]

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