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[-] raltoid@lemmy.world 86 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
  1. Linux normally does a nice shutdown as well, unless you force it.

  2. You can force it on windows if you really want.

I'm so tired of linux memes posted/made by people who don't know much about windows or linux.

[-] LouSlash@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago

You can force it on windows if you really want.

Please elaborate

[-] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 week ago

Shutdown.exe -r -t 00 -f

Fast , no mucking around with graceful exiting of stuff. Kicks it in the teefs

[-] Sonicdemon86@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

I use that as a bat file so all I have to do is double click it.

[-] sprite0@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 week ago

and then you can growl menacingly and say 'don't make me get the bat, punk'

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[-] criticon@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago

Some clarification of the command

-r #restart

-s #shutdown

-t 00 #wait 0 seconds

-f #forced

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[-] cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Absolutely, if people agree or not, the core windows is still a pretty powerful operating system. Its sad that they are ruining it by adding crap into it.

[-] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh, p-lease, can force it my ass, Linux has never failed to shutdown on me when using plain obvious GUI method. windows - can easily hang on forever as long as computer stays powered. The point of all the memes is exactly insane windows defaults, not the things that can or can't be done by someone with enough knowledge

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[-] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 77 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Linux gives processes a chance to gracefully close. However, it also will absolutely NOT allow a process to hang up the shutdown or restart procedure after a point. If you're using systemd (which there is a good chance you are), it'll count down. If the process hasn't stopped in the time allotted, it gets Old Yellered.

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[-] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 63 points 1 week ago

Linux does give every application time to shut down correctly, but unlike windows, it won't wait for ages until every process is down. Linux WILL shut down in a certain timeframe, whereas windows waits for years if necessary. In my old job, we all had to use windows and I had times where I clicked shut down, turned off my monitor, grabbed my stuff, left and in the next morning, the PC was still on because Notepad refused to just close lmao.

[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

That is what infuriates me so much. Instead of just killing the process after 5 mins of waiting it just cancels the shutdown. Like fuck off with that shit.

[-] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago

Depending on the use case, that can be a good thing or a bad thing

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[-] astrsk@fedia.io 57 points 1 week ago

If your app doesn’t respond to SIGTERM gracefully, you need to fix your app. The system did its job as documented.

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

Close correctly my ass, window's priority is to piss us off.

[-] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

I've tried to turn a pc off to go to sleep, only to realize in the morning it's still on because some program refused to close.

Now when I see the prompt to force close, I just say yes.

[-] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
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[-] Azzu@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

systemd moment in the sense that someone not affiliated with systemd used systemd to write a stop job that doesn't terminate quickly? Or that you willingly installed software that brought along a slow stop job with it?

This is like so far away from systemd's fault, idk, it must just be a meme right?

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[-] penfore@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

I've never seen anything graceful in windows

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

"Mmm, that didn't work, try again later I guess? Just stop bothering me with your petty needs and get back to generating monetizable data that I can harvest."

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[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 week ago
[-] lengau@midwest.social 10 points 1 week ago

Great way to damage a power cable.

[-] Psythik@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago

Old wives' tale. I've only ever yanked power cords out of the wall and I've yet to have one go bad on me.

[-] lengau@midwest.social 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

My ex: what charging cables do you have? They last forever, mine break after a year!
Also my ex: so I got a bunch of the same charging cables you have and they all broke after a year

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[-] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 8 points 1 week ago

I just use scissors, I have so many IECs laying around

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The kernel giveth, the kernel taketh away

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 week ago

Fear will keep them in line

[-] h4x0r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago
$ kill -L
 1) SIGHUP	 2) SIGINT	 3) SIGQUIT	 4) SIGILL	 5) SIGTRAP
 6) SIGABRT	 7) SIGBUS	 8) SIGFPE	 9) SIGKILL	10) SIGUSR1
11) SIGSEGV	12) SIGUSR2	13) SIGPIPE	14) SIGALRM	15) SIGTERM
16) SIGSTKFLT	17) SIGCHLD	18) SIGCONT	19) SIGSTOP	20) SIGTSTP
21) SIGTTIN	22) SIGTTOU	23) SIGURG	24) SIGXCPU	25) SIGXFSZ
26) SIGVTALRM	27) SIGPROF	28) SIGWINCH	29) SIGIO	30) SIGPWR
31) SIGSYS	34) SIGRTMIN	35) SIGRTMIN+1	36) SIGRTMIN+2	37) SIGRTMIN+3
38) SIGRTMIN+4	39) SIGRTMIN+5	40) SIGRTMIN+6	41) SIGRTMIN+7	42) SIGRTMIN+8
43) SIGRTMIN+9	44) SIGRTMIN+10	45) SIGRTMIN+11	46) SIGRTMIN+12	47) SIGRTMIN+13
48) SIGRTMIN+14	49) SIGRTMIN+15	50) SIGRTMAX-14	51) SIGRTMAX-13	52) SIGRTMAX-12
53) SIGRTMAX-11	54) SIGRTMAX-10	55) SIGRTMAX-9	56) SIGRTMAX-8	57) SIGRTMAX-7
58) SIGRTMAX-6	59) SIGRTMAX-5	60) SIGRTMAX-4	61) SIGRTMAX-3	62) SIGRTMAX-2
63) SIGRTMAX-1	64) SIGRTMAX
[-] letsgo@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago

So does kill -4 just make the program a bit poorly?

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[-] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 week ago

Is this even true? I am fairly sure that Linux also has a graceful shutdown process, but I'll admit I haven't looked into it.

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.org 13 points 1 week ago

yeah we have SIGTERM for graceful and SIGKILL for not so graceful shutting down a process.

[-] palordrolap@fedia.io 9 points 1 week ago

In order of decreasing politeness: 1, 2, 15, 9 = HUP, INT, TERM, KILL = "Please stop", "Quit it", "I'm warning you" and "BANG"

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Hup is frequently just "hey, reread your configuration files and keep going"

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[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago
[-] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Dead processes make no log entries

[-] yiyijiji@europe.pub 9 points 1 week ago

and this how I deleted the file I edited the entire day: shutdown -h now. No go to bed NOW!

[-] hector@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

Linux is actually great if you need to implement graceful shutdown with signals -- I love it all around :)))

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

KILL KILL KILL

[-] jonathan@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago

I feel this meme was created by someone who didn't actually know Windows in depth and recently learned of the kill command. Which by default just asks the process nicely to terminate itself.

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[-] squinky@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago

If your code can’t handle a sig9 then your code is weak

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[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago

Windows: Has a complex and graceful shutdown process to make sure programs never close if there's a problem with them and your computer just stalls on shutdown until you hold down the power button and completely void out the purpose of the graceful shutdown.

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