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Linux normally does a nice shutdown as well, unless you force it.
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You can force it on windows if you really want.
I'm so tired of linux memes posted/made by people who don't know much about windows or linux.
Linux normally does a nice shutdown as well, unless you force it.
You can force it on windows if you really want.
I'm so tired of linux memes posted/made by people who don't know much about windows or linux.
You can force it on windows if you really want.
Please elaborate
Shutdown.exe -r -t 00 -f
Fast , no mucking around with graceful exiting of stuff. Kicks it in the teefs
I use that as a bat file so all I have to do is double click it.
and then you can growl menacingly and say 'don't make me get the bat, punk'
Some clarification of the command
-r #restart
-s #shutdown
-t 00 #wait 0 seconds
-f #forced
Absolutely, if people agree or not, the core windows is still a pretty powerful operating system. Its sad that they are ruining it by adding crap into it.
Oh, p-lease, can force it my ass, Linux has never failed to shutdown on me when using plain obvious GUI method. windows - can easily hang on forever as long as computer stays powered. The point of all the memes is exactly insane windows defaults, not the things that can or can't be done by someone with enough knowledge
Linux gives processes a chance to gracefully close. However, it also will absolutely NOT allow a process to hang up the shutdown or restart procedure after a point. If you're using systemd (which there is a good chance you are), it'll count down. If the process hasn't stopped in the time allotted, it gets Old Yellered.
Linux does give every application time to shut down correctly, but unlike windows, it won't wait for ages until every process is down. Linux WILL shut down in a certain timeframe, whereas windows waits for years if necessary. In my old job, we all had to use windows and I had times where I clicked shut down, turned off my monitor, grabbed my stuff, left and in the next morning, the PC was still on because Notepad refused to just close lmao.
That is what infuriates me so much. Instead of just killing the process after 5 mins of waiting it just cancels the shutdown. Like fuck off with that shit.
If your app doesn’t respond to SIGTERM gracefully, you need to fix your app. The system did its job as documented.
Systemd moment
systemd moment in the sense that someone not affiliated with systemd used systemd to write a stop job that doesn't terminate quickly? Or that you willingly installed software that brought along a slow stop job with it?
This is like so far away from systemd's fault, idk, it must just be a meme right?
Close correctly my ass, window's priority is to piss us off.
I've tried to turn a pc off to go to sleep, only to realize in the morning it's still on because some program refused to close.
Now when I see the prompt to force close, I just say yes.
I've never seen anything graceful in windows
"Mmm, that didn't work, try again later I guess? Just stop bothering me with your petty needs and get back to generating monetizable data that I can harvest."
i mean
Great way to damage a power cable.
Old wives' tale. I've only ever yanked power cords out of the wall and I've yet to have one go bad on me.
My ex: what charging cables do you have? They last forever, mine break after a year!
Also my ex: so I got a bunch of the same charging cables you have and they all broke after a year
The kernel giveth, the kernel taketh away
Fear will keep them in line
$ kill -L
1) SIGHUP 2) SIGINT 3) SIGQUIT 4) SIGILL 5) SIGTRAP
6) SIGABRT 7) SIGBUS 8) SIGFPE 9) SIGKILL 10) SIGUSR1
11) SIGSEGV 12) SIGUSR2 13) SIGPIPE 14) SIGALRM 15) SIGTERM
16) SIGSTKFLT 17) SIGCHLD 18) SIGCONT 19) SIGSTOP 20) SIGTSTP
21) SIGTTIN 22) SIGTTOU 23) SIGURG 24) SIGXCPU 25) SIGXFSZ
26) SIGVTALRM 27) SIGPROF 28) SIGWINCH 29) SIGIO 30) SIGPWR
31) SIGSYS 34) SIGRTMIN 35) SIGRTMIN+1 36) SIGRTMIN+2 37) SIGRTMIN+3
38) SIGRTMIN+4 39) SIGRTMIN+5 40) SIGRTMIN+6 41) SIGRTMIN+7 42) SIGRTMIN+8
43) SIGRTMIN+9 44) SIGRTMIN+10 45) SIGRTMIN+11 46) SIGRTMIN+12 47) SIGRTMIN+13
48) SIGRTMIN+14 49) SIGRTMIN+15 50) SIGRTMAX-14 51) SIGRTMAX-13 52) SIGRTMAX-12
53) SIGRTMAX-11 54) SIGRTMAX-10 55) SIGRTMAX-9 56) SIGRTMAX-8 57) SIGRTMAX-7
58) SIGRTMAX-6 59) SIGRTMAX-5 60) SIGRTMAX-4 61) SIGRTMAX-3 62) SIGRTMAX-2
63) SIGRTMAX-1 64) SIGRTMAX
Is this even true? I am fairly sure that Linux also has a graceful shutdown process, but I'll admit I haven't looked into it.
yeah we have SIGTERM for graceful and SIGKILL for not so graceful shutting down a process.
In order of decreasing politeness: 1, 2, 15, 9 = HUP, INT, TERM, KILL = "Please stop", "Quit it", "I'm warning you" and "BANG"
Hup is frequently just "hey, reread your configuration files and keep going"
"no loose ends"
Dead processes make no log entries
and this how I deleted the file I edited the entire day: shutdown -h now
. No go to bed NOW!
Linux is actually great if you need to implement graceful shutdown with signals -- I love it all around :)))
KILL KILL KILL
I feel this meme was created by someone who didn't actually know Windows in depth and recently learned of the kill
command. Which by default just asks the process nicely to terminate itself.
Windows: Has a complex and graceful shutdown process to make sure programs never close if there's a problem with them and your computer just stalls on shutdown until you hold down the power button and completely void out the purpose of the graceful shutdown.
Hint: :q!
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