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[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

First, communism is a nebulous term that is used a lot of different ways by lots of different people. So I don’t think it’s meaningful to condemn or endorse without first defining what you mean. I would encourage you to be more specific about the ideology or political faction you are describing and you might get more support.

Second, don’t confuse Lemmy.ml with the rest of Lemmy. That place is weird and everyone who’s not a bootlicker gets banned, so it’s a very “special” group of people.

[-] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 9 points 2 weeks ago

Usually people dislike the authoritarian communists.

They don't necessarily even hate communism. They hate the people that call themselves communist.

Yes, I'm talking about .lm and hexbear

[-] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

ALL pro-communist online discourse is completely taken over by shills immediately….
there is no possible way that .ml or hexbear are genuinely trying to promote their ideology by being as toxic and hateful as possible to everyone, especially people who are interested in communism.

also, they don’t even meme right, they take some exaggerated facial expressions from a still from a mainstream 90’s movie, and the point is always “you’re sooo stupid, nah nah, nah nah”.

there’s no fucking way that grew organically… it’s a shill farm…

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net -1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah that’s what I was alluding to. Maybe I should have been a little more explicit but I think there’s a broader point here about how nebulous and contentious terms like this divide people unknowingly, when they may not even disagree on the underlying issues.

For example, anarchocommunists might feel criticized by this post, but I doubt that’s who OP had in mind.

[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Capitalism bad

Socialism good

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

Where did you get that feeling with your 2 day old account? O.o

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

You made me curious to go and see what triggered this—dude got one downvote on a comment

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

The person you’re speaking with thinks Russia isn’t committing genocide in Ukraine and seemingly is in defense of most everything they do, so…

In an anti-communist post, It’s not a big surprise that they’re here to poke holes in everything that projects them in bad lighting.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

And right before that, they claimed some horseshoe bullshit.

[-] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

Ahahahhahaha ah, yeah, that's basically my experience on this platform

[-] Artyom@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

I wonder if the people down voting this understand the irony...

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 weeks ago

Saying something stupid on purpose and getting flack for it is "irony" now?

[-] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I downvote because it's low quality engagement.

[-] RushLana@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago

I genuinely don't understand. Can you explain it to me ?

[-] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

The meme is that saying communism is bad will get you downvoted.

The meme is basically saying that communism is bad.

The post is getting downvoted.

It's ironic

[-] RushLana@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

I don't get it. It's like kicking the hornet nest and saying getting stung is ironic.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

It’s so often we see these bootlickers telling everyone how capitalism is bad, but so fucking rare that you ever see any of them saying how communism is good, let alone proving it without a copypasta wall of text.

They’re like a bunch of flat-earthers that are convinced everyone else is wrong about a spherical earth, but cannot for the life of a single one of them, produce a shred evidence to validate any of it. So instead, they just post these insanely lengthy declarations of rhetorical psychobabblery and meaningless quotes, and then yell at anyone who tries to inject reality into it.

Meanwhile, we all float on, going about our lives, on this round planet of ours.

[-] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

I feel the idea of communism is incomplete. Or at least debatable on the mechanics of an actual working system. A classless and stateless society that loves classifying and controlling people might be a little hard.

[-] j5906@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

This is like saying the idea capitalism is incomplete because a true free market would soon sell fentanyl, organs and slaves, aswell as find every possible way to dump their trash into rivers. Both ideologies are merely mind games and contain abstract concepts like a free market (that is never truly free) or owning the means of production (that doesnt mean you can take your part of the machine home).

Also nowhere in the theory of communism is it mentioned that you should classify and control people. There are sentences like that by Marx himself but this is always a description of what he witnessed in his life under monarchy.

Just one example: You mentioned that communism should be classless but communists somehow love classifying. You got the first part partially correct, communism should try to eliminate classes. But do they love classifying? Absolutely not, they say its a necessary tool, in a non-communist society to be aware of the class you are in and try to break down class barriers around you, this achieving this classless society.

What you did, was saying: "Doctors love to pretend they heal you, yet somehow they love stabbing you" leaving out the fact that they stab you with needles/syringes in a controlled manner and they dont love the "stabbing" part, they love the part were after the stabbing you get better because of it.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Capitalism only works under the rule of the law. The law is what protects individuals from aggression of other people.

But if you agree to buy fentanyl, and the seller provides a quality product that is not adulterated, that's between you two. At the same time, you're not allowed to go to a public place and make a camp to use your drugs.

[-] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

I'm sorry. I should been more clear. I meant society as in all of humanity that has built in hierarchical tendencies of control would be a little hard to form a true stateless and classless system. I personally think we should strive to get as close as humanly possible to that ideal even though I think we can't ever fully encompass that goal.

[-] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 weeks ago

Lemmy W

[-] yesman@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The same people who pop sieg heils and then cry about nuance and squeal about unfair labels think that everything to the left of Bill Maher is a communist.

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