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Trump reportedly held up a digitally altered image of the hand of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a Maryland man who was deported by the Trump administration, in an attempt to prove Garcia is a gang member.

Trump can be seen holding a printed-out photo... demonstrating that "MS-13" is tattooed across his knuckles.

"This is the hand of the man that the Democrats feel should be brought back," Trump posted. However, many have pointed out that the image appears photoshopped.

"MS-13 looks like it was typed on the photo." "Needing to have a photo doctored... is definitely something a psychopath would do."

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[-] Pavidus@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago

Alright, I'll take the bait. Let's all assume he has an MS-13 tattoo. What does this change? The dude still gets his constitutional rights, and his day in court. On US soil.

[-] jacksilver@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

This is what they always do, get you arguing about something that doesn't matter. Just eats up time and energy about nothing.

[-] MBech@feddit.dk 4 points 1 month ago

I think this whole Garcia deportation is part of that. It wasn't supposed to in the beginning, but they're cooking with what they have.

Instead of talking about how fucking insane it is to deporting people to a death camp without any due process. We're now talking about how insane it is to deport someone who wasn't "supposed" to be deported to a death camp, and then refuse to do the bare minimum to get him back.

They've made sure we ignore the hundreds of people getting removed with no sign of evidence against their crimes.

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[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

The goal is to use fear, hatred, bigotry etc as a means to normalize authoritarianism and the destruction of rights, in exchange for non-existent "security" and "protection".

See terrorism and pedophilia.

[-] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

And on top of all that, even if somehow you could justify foregoing due process, the dude STILL can't legally be sent to El Salvador because of his withholding of removal to that country which I'm pretty sure is what the"administrative error" was that the white house admitted lol.

[-] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago

It kind of looks like annotation to imply that the symbols actually on his hand mean MS-13, but I'd easily believe Trump is dumb enough to think he has "M S 1 3" printed in Arial font on his fingers.

If it is an annotation...show us those court records, you fascist son of a bitch.

[-] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 month ago

It's so obvious that the letters and numbers are there to show what the tattooed symbols represent. I feel like I'm in bizarro world that people don't understand that and think they've found some smoking gun.

It doesn't change the need for due process, but come on people.

Yeah, the story should have been, "Trump comes up with another distraction to avoid admitting he's violating the Constitution," or at least, "Trump too stupid to understand a picture and says stupid thing."

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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

It looks like people believe the M S 1 3 annotations are what they are saying is on his hand. We're in some dire straits.

The annotations are bullshit tho

[-] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The annotations are bullshit tho

How so? Marijuana, Smile are pretty clear, the cross you can see in place of 1 on other MS13 tattoos (using image search of MS13 tattoos).

The only one I'm not sure of is the skull, but the available image is a bit blurry. Maybe the 2 eye holes plus the nose hole?

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[-] Squorlple@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

Here’s a closeup of the image

A Nigerian prince puts more effort into fooling people.

[-] Nikelui@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Wait, the letters are clearly digitally added on top of the photo, but aren't they just used to label the tattoos on each finger?

Not that would change anything...

[-] Squorlple@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If they wanted to indicate a translation for the symbols, they could have done so off of the part of the image consisting of the hand. Trump said verbatim “he’s got MS-13 tattooed onto his knuckles”. Not symbols for MS-13, the phrase itself. Additionally, the real tattoos are clearly not on the knuckles, but the photoshopped letters are. Trump believes the photoshopped letters are actual tattoos and/or wants to convince people of it.

[EDIT: Trump 100% means to convince us that the photoshopped letters are actual tattoos. We are as cooked as the old coot’s brain.]

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He should have used a sharpie. It would be more convincing than the pixelated font that doesn't align wit the hand at all.

I have to think someone overlaid text on the photo to persuade people that the pictures on the fingers represented MS13, but Trump got the wrong end of the stick, made an idiot of himself in front of the media, and no one dared tell him he was a fucking moron.

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[-] HiddenLychee@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Omfg I literally had to double check this was really what trump was holding up. "internet sleuth" my ass, a ten year old could point out how stupidly fake this is.

[-] takeda@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That was my first reaction, but apparently the letters were placed there to explain the tattoos "meaning".

Supposedly:

Marijuana stands for M Smiley face stands for S Cross stands for 1 for some reason Skull stands for 3 for some reason

They forgot that:

  • wouldn't the text be in Spanish and not English?
  • MS 13 hand members are proud of being in it, they put giant letters on their chests, backs, face, of he wanted to hide it, why even bother having a tattoos? Wouldn't other hand members get upset that he is hiding it?

I also couldn't find anyone else who was using such cryptic tattoos.

Also you can literally assign any meaning to it for example:

  • Pot
  • Ecstatic
  • "t"
  • Afterlife

This shows that Abrego Garcia is actually an animal lover and supports PETA.

But this is beside the point. The problem is he had no due process, and wasn't deported but human trafficked to a prison in 3rd world country.

If they have undeniable proof give it to the court and then either deport him or put him in US jail if he committed a crime.

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[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

That doesn't even qualify as a Photoshop. It should be called an "MS Paint"

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[-] 0p3r470r@lemm.ee 26 points 1 month ago

It’s sharpie gate all over again!

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[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's nice to see Trump can learn and grow. It wasn't that long ago when he would have just scribbled it with a sharpie. Anyway, it must really annoy Trump that thanks to Senator Van Hollen's visit, where he proved he could do what Trump admitted that he himself could not, we now have unadulterated photos of Garcia's hand without the shitty photoshop.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

At this point, the guy could be a rabid neonazi pedophile for all I care: he should still not have been deported without a trial. People are presumed innocent until proven guilty in court. Do your fucking job.

[-] spicehoarder@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Why would a cop get deported?

[-] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 18 points 1 month ago

What insults me more than anything is that he thinks I am so stupid that I would accept that obviously doctored photo as real. I felt the same way when he pitched his hurricane weather map with his Sharpie edit.

Hey, HitlerPig, we aren't all as stupid as you, and the people around you.

[-] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago

It's the default font. They didn't even bother to select an appropriate "gang" font.

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 11 points 1 month ago

Ok, so what happened here is that police added letters to the photo explaining what each symbol means. Some idiots on twitter thought those added letters are the claimed MS-13 tattoo. It's not clear if Trump also thought that those letters were actually tattooed, probably yes.

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[-] techclothes@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Even if it wasn't. We don't throw people in jail, much less deport them for tattoos. I know some people in thr Trump shitshow who should go to jail for their tattoos if this is what they want to start doing.

[-] troglodytis@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

So umm.... What's the problem? Return. Prove it in a court of law. Due process for all. It doesn't matter who the person is or what they've done. What matters is how the government acts.

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[-] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

Who do I trust?

A lying asswipe who wouldn't know the truth if it slapped him in his orange face?

A man I don't know that has been sent to a foreign nation's prison for no reason?

Easy choice.

[-] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

the individual is not the issue. it's the process. i'm not going to go to bat for some rando who might very well be involved in nefarious shit, but i will damn sure defend the idea that every person is allowed a chance to defend themself. this is the issue. people need to stop treating this dude like a saint. it could very well backfire.

in fact, leftists and liberals in general need to stop automatically assuming the opposite of everything a conservative claims is true. that's a fucking trap and it's illogical.

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[-] Uppp@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

How much more do they need to impeach this liar ?

[-] Draegur@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

Look. I wish he could be removed by impeachment. But we need to accept that he's an outlaw.

He is a clear proponent of extrajudicial capital punishment.

Only an overdose of his own medicine will take him down.

[-] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

The SCOTUS immunity superpowers aren't the gift he thinks. All they did was remove the civilized options for his removal, leaving nothing but the worst case scenario options for him.

[-] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

The only two things that could remove Trump early is a military coup, an armed revolution, or both.

A sniper or cyanide could also work.

Or a Luigi

[-] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

An assassination would put Vance up. The entire admin is the same or worse.

[-] RizzoTheSmall@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You wanna bring up possibility of criminal history as an argument against someone being entitled to their rights as a US citizen? Let's not throw big and obvious stones in very precarious glass houses.

[-] SarcasticMan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

So first things first man, if you have gang ink they photograph that shit and validate them. He was arrested in 2019 so, show me his ink and the photos they took of it when they arrested him.

[-] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

You mean the US government had someone they considered a terrorist and instead of holding them, they released them?

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

These people are so fucking stupid. Footage from the Van Hollan meeting will come out soon and show this is clearly not a thing.

[-] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 4 points 1 month ago

A TATTOO?! GUILTY! FEED HIM TO THE LIONS!

[-] superkret@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago

Even if it wasn't, it would still be won't to kidnap and throw him into a concentration camp without due process.

[-] SSNs4evr@leminal.space 3 points 1 month ago

Trump - "I bet photoshop is one of those computer thingies...I definitely didn't use that."

[-] Hikuro93@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Even if that's real, which doesn't look like it, what's keeping them from forcing Mr. Garcia onto a chair, hold him down, while they tattoo it?

This administration and their dictator allies have shown to have no constraints, no guardrails, time and time again. Consistently. You can always blindly trust them to bs and lie their way through anything.

You gonna tell me people who tried to stage Mr. Garcia sipping some Margaritas by a hotel pool wouldn't stoop so low as to place fake tattoos on him? Yeah, that's the thing with dishonesty - even if you tell the truth once it's still gonna be called into question. The boy who cried wolf, and all that.

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