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With surveys reporting that an increasing number of young men are subscribing to these beliefs, the number of women finding that their partners share the misogynistic views espoused by the likes of Andrew Tate is also on the rise. Research from anti-fascism organisation Hope Not Hate, which polled about 2,000 people across the UK aged 16 to 24, discovered that 41% of young men support Tate versus just 12% of young women.

“Numbers are growing, with wives worried about their husbands and partners becoming radicalised,” says Nigel Bromage, a reformed neo-Nazi who is now the director of Exit Hate Trust, a charity that helps people who want to leave the far right.

“Wives or partners become really worried about the impact on their family, especially those with young children, as they fear they will be influenced by extremism and racism.”

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[-] rimu@piefed.social 96 points 1 week ago

"Do you regularly watch videos by Jordan Peterson?" kinda needs to become one of those before-first-date screening questions.

[-] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago

What if the answer is yes, but I'm laughing at him the whole time?

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Still shows that you've got a whole lot of time to waste and that you might be susceptible to eventually fall down the rabbit hole

[-] Sineljora@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

I think you have right attitude. No one is immune to propaganda, and you really need to be careful in choosing what you consume.

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[-] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Views = money/support for them. Doesn't matter if you're laughing or not.

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago

either that or: ben shapiro, or joe roegan videos.

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[-] BillyTheKid@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

Very direct. They could lie about it. Better to ask conceptually I think.

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[-] Mothra@mander.xyz 63 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

12% of young women support Tate? That's way higher than what I expected :( I can't understand why would any woman support someone who makes a fortune out of exploiting and abusing women openly

[-] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 1 week ago

Tradwife content is on the rise for women as well, more and more young people are buying into this mythical simpler past as the world gets more complex, alienating and difficult.

[-] Mothra@mander.xyz 22 points 1 week ago

I can understand that but how come being a webcam girl and endure physical and psychological abuse fit in the "tradwife" narrative? It's particularly support for Tate what I can't understand

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[-] modeler@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Almost every survey will get 6-10% of people answering yes to the most extreme or batshit crazy option, no matter what.

Probably the main reason is that people are pissed off that they are being approached by survey takers and punish the survey for revenge.

And there are some batshit crazy people out there.

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[-] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 60 points 1 week ago

Spoilers: there were signs

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 20 points 1 week ago

Yeah, they just didn’t pay attention to their partner. Which, not making excuses, is a good part of how they slip there.

[-] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

Sometimes it's easier to stay with the devil you know than chance the devil you don't.

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[-] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 week ago

You want a trad wife? Get your sorry ass to work buying her cars, clothes, houses, furnishings so she can focus on making your home. Kids in private school, high class vacations, all of it.

Provider is a title that is earned and I doubt even a thousandth of these blowholes are up to the task of being a trad husband.

[-] jagermo@feddit.org 14 points 1 week ago

Thank you, I'd rather be a trophy husband than support a tradwife

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 8 points 1 week ago

I’m not sure ML is the right place for you hehe

[-] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

A lifetime of experience has taught me the fastest way to poke through someone's hubris is to take their bullshit deadly seriously.

[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 5 points 1 week ago

Ah, see, i knew there was a trad wife catch.

Private schools. shudders

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[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 1 week ago

Just based on what I see women doing around me all the time, there were probably some warning signs. Looking for a dude that's "traditional" or whatever is asking for a dude that's going to see you like a form of livestock. It's partly a politics thing, but largely an assholes thing.

41% of young men support Tate versus just 12% of young women.

WTF those are both shockingly high.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

I support Tate...

...Being locked in prison for the rest of his life.

[-] vga@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If you just translate the figures to "41% of young men, 12% of young women are stupid assholes", they make a bit more sense.

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[-] DozensOfDonner@mander.xyz 19 points 1 week ago

Im in a bubble where these guys are like the most laughable parody of themselves so maybe I'm biased but... I mean nobody is taking this kind of stuff serious right? I mean cool, free speech and such but dumb behavior had consequences, right?

[-] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

People absolutely take this stuff seriously. The problem is the most bone headed guys are the ones likely to fall for this stuff. Once they're sucked in it's hard to convince them otherwise.

It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

there was plenty of warning signs for Years, even before the pandemic. if you look at how pickup artist operate, and then go on youtube. Tate isnt even a new phenemon, hes a culmination of the above problems. hes just the latest symptom, as was JOE ROGAN.

[-] vga@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 week ago

To answer the headline: divorce, I hope.

[-] carbonari_sandwich@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

When economic independence is rare, divorce is rare.

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[-] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago

Occasionally my partner does or says some things that remind me of the “manosphere” aka 4chan neckbeards.

And when it happens, we talk about it. I don’t pretend or let it go as “he doesn’t mean it” or “he doesn’t know what he’s saying”. I don’t get mad and he doesn’t get mad. We have an adult discussion and I’m careful not to talk down to him.

A perfect example was that he sometimes says “females” when he means “women”. I explain that it’s not a swear word but it’s still derogatory. I explain why. Once I did, he understood and stopped doing it.

It doesn’t have to be a big deal! Communication is key!

[-] match@pawb.social 6 points 1 week ago

i don't know how could anyone watch Star Trek DS9 and still call women "females" like a Ferengi

[-] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago

Funny you say that! He doesn’t do it anymore but I just sent him this meme from !tenforward@lemmy.world!

[-] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 5 points 1 week ago

Communication is key

Sure, but honestly it sounds tiring if this kind of discussion is a recurring thing.

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[-] perestroika@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

When I date people, I don't allow myself to go forward without completing a mutual background check. I ask questions and talk about politics, tell about situations I've encountered and listen attentively.

I want to know about the other person's world views, decision-making and problem-solving methods - and to inform them about my own. I want to know how they tell apart truth from a lie, what they think about state and centralization, wealth and poverty, science and religion, civil rights and minorities - and to inform them about what I think, so they could make informed decisions.

Ironically, I don't wish to know what party they vote for - because the selection is shitty and I laugh about my own past choices. :)

Recalling situations where world views mismatched - I've had to part ways with one person because she was too spiritual. Two people subscribed to odd conspiracy theories. One person's goals in life warned me about excessive self-interest and lack of care about others.

P.S.

Trying to switch perspective and step into the shoes of a woman, I think it can be a warning sign if the other person gives excessive gifts or feels "obligated to take care" - one should inquire about the reason. I would also be wary of people who eagerly accept me as the new centerpoint of their life - it might indicate an obsessive tendency and severe symptoms if the relation should break. If the other person exhibited jealousy about friends or controlling behaviour, that would be a definite warning sign to me.

P.P.S.

As for social media, yes, it can corrupt people's perception of reality. How to pull them out of the bog, no idea. As for how to avoid them getting there: no algorithmically steered social media.

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

gives excessive gifts

Huge red flag. Becomes a tool of control (I was married into a wealthy family.)

The big thing is that they can change their personality after marriage - once you are trapped. There were red flags there, which I shouldn’t have ignored, but it was like night and day.

Mine started getting interested in stuff like religion - noticed that his pastor friend got to play WoW all day while the wife basically did everything.

[-] aceshigh@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I think it’s a good strategy but it’s not fool proof. They’ll tell you what you want to hear and then slowly start pushing your boundaries. Or they’ll pretend to be one way only to get what they want out of you.

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[-] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

Isn't tate already old news for the manosphere?

[-] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I literally just blocked an NSFW lemmit of misogynygonewild and it blew my mind it was even a thing. Fucking trash.

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[-] Ickabod@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

Get a new partner.. they're gone

[-] Naevermix@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Toxic masculinity, feeding itself, empowered by the forces of capital who desires culture war above class war.

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