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The suspect in the Florida State University shooter, who faces first degree murder charges for killing two and injuring five on Thursday was a member of Charlie Kirk’s Turning Point USA, a fascist youth group around the Republican Party, and is a registered Republican voter in Florida. The 20-year-old suspect, Phoenix Ikner, is the stepson of Leon County Sheriff’s Office Deputy Jessica Ikner, who has been with the department for 18 years.

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[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 211 points 1 week ago

It's always the ones you most suspect.

[-] nul9o9@lemmy.dbzer0.com 141 points 1 week ago

No terrorism charge? That's crazy. /s

[-] floo@retrolemmy.com 107 points 1 week ago

It’s not like he shot a CEO or something…

[-] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 1 week ago

Just another day in America

[-] Tujio@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

Or spray painted a cybertruck...

[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

Or wasn't white.

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[-] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 49 points 1 week ago

Turning Point USA a designated terrorist group? Yes please.

[-] Wilco@lemm.ee 29 points 1 week ago

The terrorism charge only takes place when the victims exceed a certain income level.

[-] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

Or targets the business of a right wing billionaire

[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 132 points 1 week ago

When news of the shooting broke I was with my dad who said "the shooter was probably radical Democrat since they are the violent ones". FoxRot is real and dangerous.

[-] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago

Magats are lost causes and they’ll never be functioning members of society in any meaningful way again. They are class traitors who want to watch the world burn

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 week ago

Back in the old days of Fark, I remember there used to be a flowchart of people's reactions to mass shootings:

  • Mass shooting happens
  • initial reaction: guy is a terrorist Muslim and we need to bomb some country in the middle east.
  • news shows it's a white guy
  • "Oh my...how sad. He must have been really struggling."

I feel like the right has replaced the second step with whatever out group they are trying to target.

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[-] AufusagandR@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 week ago

Genuinely insane. Forget about it.

[-] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 81 points 1 week ago

I notice they didn’t charge him with terrorism and the death penalty.

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 1 week ago

Because he didn't hit a Tesla.

[-] Aksamit@slrpnk.net 44 points 1 week ago
[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 71 points 1 week ago

this isn’t a crime that would have been prevented by the gun control measures advocated by the Democrats, since none of the proposals involve disarming the police

Just had to get that in there, you fucking donkeys.

I saw some of these guys at the protest on Saturday. Someone had a microphone and spent, no lie, about 2/3rds of the time they had the mic aiming vicious criticism at the Democrats. Not "both sides," not the whole system (that was the remaining 1/3rd), but the Democrats specifically. I thought about making a bigger post about it but I'm not even sure what to say about it. I think there was 0 criticism at all leveled at the Trump administration or anything that they were doing.

Great job guys

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 66 points 1 week ago

Disarming the police does sound like an excellent idea. Police cause more problems than they solve with firearms.

[-] DarkShaggy@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago

As the saying goes, if you have a problem and you call the police you now have 2 problems.

[-] Fondots@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I work in 911 dispatch, a lot of my coworkers are predictably bootlickers.

I can't even tell you how many calls we get all day everyday where we're all just left scratching our head going "Why did you call 911,about this? This isn't a police issue." But since usually the only tool we have in our toolbox is police, that's what we end up having to send.

But they'll balk at any suggestion that maybe our police don't need a new armored truck and a new police station, and whatever other stupid shit they're spending tax dollars on, and instead maybe we should spend that money to beef up our mental health services, public works, homeless outreach, animal control, code enforcement, and other services that we could be providing instead of just sending police out to deal with non-police issues.

Luckily, my local police are pretty good as far as police go, not too trigger happy, generally make a decent effort to handle mental health issues carefully, they usually manage to not make things significantly worse, though they often don't do much to improve the situation either.

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[-] dota__2@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

as always, "no way to prevent this" says only country that this happens.

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[-] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

I hate how the narrative now is:

Yeah the republicans are bad, but the democrats didn't stop them from doing the bad in the most perfect way so who's the real bad guy?

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[-] einlander@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

But he used his parents guns. Guns owned by police....

[-] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 week ago

He was at the center of a custody battle since he was a toddler, with his father alleging his mother neglected and abused him.

Kind of have to wonder which parent was actually abusing or neglecting the kid, seeing as all this happened under his father's roof.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

TBH that sucks for the kid.

[-] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

Yup. Kids always pay the price for their parent's fuck-ups.

[-] Tronn4@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago
[-] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

... but I repeat myself.

[-] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 29 points 1 week ago

The mom is still with the sheriff office after her kid used her issued weapon to murder people? That seems like an immediate resignation type of event, with potential for criminal negligence charges down the road.

[-] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Cops are so fucking careless with guns it’s unbelievable. Any time you hear of an accidental discharge, it was the cops negligence and they’re lying about it because Glocks do not misfire without user error

[-] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 24 points 1 week ago

They leave them unattended in public bathrooms so often that my hospital has a protocol for what to do if we find one

[-] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

jfc, I’ve heard about them doing that but I didn’t realize it was that bad. Fucking morons

[-] DrFistington@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

LEO are involved in hundreds of accidental discharges a year, they also shoot themselves and other officers on accident dozens of times per year. Unfortunately exact numbers are very difficult to get because cops always fight having their actions tracked in national registries.

I've also thought it's hilarious how cops seem to love glocks. The "dual trigger" safety mechanism is shit. It can get caught easily on your holster, waist band, or one of the 20 fucking things on your belt and cause an AD. Oh yeah, if you have shitty trigger discipline like most cops,then you'll probably have an AD too.

Springfield makes a much better, safer pistol, IMO

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago
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[-] arrow74@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago

I'm from Tallahassee and small correction. It was her former service weapon that she purchased from the department after it was decommissioned. It was her personal firearm.

[-] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Well, perhaps, but you neglected to include the Florida clause.

[-] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

I thought I'd read in a previous article that the mom went to prison for kidnapping him a few years ago and taking him out of the country in violation of their custody agreement. If I'm recalling this correctly, it's insane that he can still work as a deputy, but I know how Florida loves their cops.

[-] arrow74@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is misinformation, and I know it's not intentional.

His biological mother did kidnap him. The Leon County Sherriffs deputy is his step-mom that has functionally raised him since he was very young.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgq7l32r98o

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[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 28 points 1 week ago

Fascist deeply embedded in police community? That’s every cop.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago

There was another article that said the shooter used the step parent's service gun.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

It used to be her service weapon. It was purchased from the department when they updated equipment.

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

so do they have responsibility for their weapons?

like securely locked-up whenever they are not on physically in possession and in control of them?

[-] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

People should be charged with a crime when their unsecured firearms are used in a crime like this. I’m not holding my breath on this one. No way a cop actually faces criminal charges for this. But they should :(

[-] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

They absolutely fucking do. Most of these situations happen because of some negligent fucking asshole who owns a firearm. It’s so easy to make sure it’s locked up and inaccessible to others. I own firearms and know exactly where they are at at all times and know that they are secure, there’s no fucking excuse for that negligence

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Unsurprising.

[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago

Another MAGAt Nazi. Living their death cult dreams.

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago

Why did they say "fascist" twice?

[-] pinheadednightmare@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

To cover both sides of his face.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Who could possibly not have foreseen this?

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