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[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

"It's good, but we can't market it. If you were already famous in some other way so we could sell based on that, we would buy it."

Could have phrased it better, but I kinda get it.

[-] rockerface@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

"It's good, but we're bad at actually selling books so we need you to be famous in another unrelated way to compensate for our incompetence"

FTFY

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

At least they know their failings and wont waste the authors time.

[-] tempest@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

"they" don't though. The low level employee/intern who read it might but that entire industry is up its own ass smelling it's own farts at the top.

[-] BoulevardBlvd@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 month ago

No you didn't. People don't buy the memoirs of random people. The publisher can move heaven and Earth but people still wouldn't change the fact that the audience will never exist

[-] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Who said anything about memoirs? The thing about "the memoirs of random people" is not that they were written by non-famous people - it's that they are about non-famous people.

[-] Nefara@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Sure they do, all the time, as long as it's an interesting story.

More than half of the books on this list are by "random" ie, non famous people.

[-] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

So you run it by James Paterson, Inc. (or the estate of Tom Clancy or whoever fits best) get his name above yours and now you're contracted to release new novels at an absolutely breakneck pace,, but you have your foot in the door and can become the more famous writer who can release their own novels.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

"We won't publish you until you've been published"

Think about it

[-] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I thought this was an entry level publishing

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

applies to the job market too

[-] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

I would've thought "finding fresh talent" is something that publishers do out of self-interest, but I guess I'm wrong.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

this assumes the industry is vaguely competent and capable of critical thinking

[-] argh_another_username@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

I can’t have a job because I don’t have enough experience. I don’t have experience because I don’t have a job.

[-] Coolbeanschilly@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

You're supposed to devote yourself to a year long unpaid internship. Bills? Who cares, you have to live like a slave.

[-] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago

"Bills? Who cares, you have to live like a slave."

Don't be silly. No-one is expecting you to live like a slave in order to do an unpaid internship — that would hardly be conducive to outputting good work anyway.

No, no — obviously you're meant to rely on your family's wealth.

Oh, you don't have family wealth to rely on? Okay, well the simple solution is to just not do the unpaid internship if you can't afford it. And if that means you aren't able to secure a paid position, due to lack of experience, then that just shows that the system works! After all, we have to keep the riff-raff out somehow

[-] BoulevardBlvd@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 month ago

It's more like walking into Google the day after your high school graduation and asking to be the CEO. I'm sure he could have been published if he tried to publish something people wanted to read. there's barely an audience for the memoirs of real people that isn't just money laundering. Literally no one would buy it if they published it

[-] benignintervention@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Is this about a memoir? I think I'm missing context

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

a completely uneducated person would probably be a better CEO since they won't be able to commit massive fraud, and thus the company is left with more funds

[-] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Lots and lots of anecdotes online about aspiring authors being denied publishing because they don't have a pre-established following. It's a sad state of affairs

[-] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 1 month ago

Isn't the publisher's job to advertise the book, get people to know it?

[-] sundray@lemmus.org 1 points 1 month ago

That sounds hard, just have a popular YouTube channel or Insta or something.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago

This is what ghost writing is for. The publisher just slaps “Peter Andre” on the cover, the readers get to do “Leo-pointing-at-the-television”, everybody wins.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago

Was it an autobiography?

[-] flango@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 1 month ago

The book selling business is killing books. It's so expensive to buy a new book today that I don't even bother looking. Long live the old books stores and public libraries!

[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Book publishers have become so risk adverse that they really do only established stuff then they have a limit for everything else. It’s hard to even get established stuff translated from other countries.

[-] xionzui@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 month ago

It’s a reasonable concern for a publisher. A book being good doesn’t necessarily sell books. But having a famous name on it does.

[-] peregrin5@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You can be a master with 30 years experience in something like pottery, but you will make less money than an amateur who started doing pottery this year who has even a moderate Instagram following if you don't have any social media presence.

You have to whore yourself to the masses if you want to make money in art or literature.

[-] Grimtuck@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Instructions unclear. I've literally whored myself to the masses and I don't know how to make pottery.

[-] peregrin5@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

But you probably made lots of money. :)

[-] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Money?

Maybe the real money was the diseases we caught along the way

[-] rockerface@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Isn't it literally the publisher's job to figure out how to turn a good book into a marketable book?

[-] peregrin5@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

No. It's their job to make money. If they don't think you'll make them money they won't waste resources on you.

[-] rockerface@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

So they're bad at making money, noted

[-] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 month ago

What's especially dumb about this is that Tom is an excellent writer. Villager is wonderful.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

He's talking about his friend who is trying to get started, not himself

[-] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

So he is. It's been a long day...

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