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NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh suffered a resounding defeat on election night, losing his own seat, his party reduced to a single-digit seat count.

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[-] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 143 points 1 month ago
[-] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm sorry, wasn't aware.

I usually post CBC, but they break metadata embedding on Lemmy.

[-] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 75 points 1 month ago

Here friend! Some of the Non Canadian owned new outlets and the Canadian owned when reading getting your information.

[-] PsychoNaut@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago

Where do Globe & Mail and Toronto Star sit?

[-] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 month ago

Globe & Mail and Toronto Star are currently, Canadian owned, but can be acquired (by foreign interest).

P.s. none of the Canadian owned news outlets in the infographic can be acquired.

[-] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago

What makes those two different from the rest? Why can they be acquired?

[-] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Any for-profit organization (e.g. Globe & Mail and Toronto Star) can be acquired simply by buying shares. We've seen this with the Hudson Bay, for example.

The featured media outlets in the infographic are either government owned, or non-profit. You can't acquire the government, and a non-profit structure doesn't have shareholders.

[-] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago

Makes sense, thanks!

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago

Owned and manipulated by our own oligarchs

[-] notsure@fedia.io 39 points 1 month ago

first past the post will kill you as easily as it killed Estats Unis

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 month ago

Estats Unis

États-Unis, my dude.

[-] kodoku@beehaw.org 8 points 1 month ago

i think they wrote it in catalan, not french

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[-] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 month ago
[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 69 points 1 month ago

I feel sad for the guy because he really did care and worked hard. He was a good dude.

[-] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 month ago

He had his time and he did delivered some good things, but it's defintely time for new ideas and more charismatic leaders. He was the most unpopular leader in this election cycle.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago

Jagmeet was plenty charismatic; and earnest, too. But while I worried about his focus, really he bounced off a glass ceiling; and then found slagging an ally in campaign ads was detrimental to both. (and let's talk about how uncharacteristic THAT was)

But he presented well as someone with decent motivations, and his causes were generally on the side of regular Canadians, as you'd expect from the oranges. He had his best party and just misstepped while puppet-mastering Justin.

[-] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

100% glass ceiling. He gained quite a bit of popularity in 2021 because of how charismatic he is. I think a lot of people aren't willing to admit it, but Canada just isn't ready for a PM that looks like him (or rather, that doesn't look like previous PMs).

[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

That’s not enough in politics, sadly.

Politics is war by other means. It’s every bit as complex and strategic, it’s just not as obvious.

The NDP has been lost in the wilderness as a party for a long time. They’ve spent far too much energy and credibility complaining about vote-splitting and electoral reform. They haven’t done the serious work to present themselves as a credible alternative to the Liberals, the way Jack Layton did.

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[-] cybirdman@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 month ago

While I agree that change is necessary, I feel like NDP as a whole needs to change strategy. It's like every single promise they make is about throwing shade on another party, or saying they will fix something liberals did, but rarely any actual constructive or original ideas. They need to come up with their own identity instead of basing it on the opposite of another.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago

rarely any actual constructive or original ideas

My mom's getting some dental work, thanks to his original idea.

They need to come up with their own identity

They HAVE an identity: small-biz heroes, middle-class champions, lift-all-boats tide. This has been their identity for decades.

instead of basing it on the opposite of another.

You confusing the orange with the blue?

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago

That you think this means the NDP is not getting their message out.

[-] jloewen@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

I mostly agree with agenda of the NDP and also with Singh but I also noticed that he started bashing the liberals more than usual in the last couple of month. I live in Manitoba and hear often official ads from the Conservative party in radio about things they blame on Trudeau. In my opinion this needs to stop, this is not professional.

[-] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

I got to be honest. The NDP are like some anime hero in this election sacrificing it all so the main protagonist can beat the villian

[-] toastmeister@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

-Mass immigration and loosening regulation so temporary students can work 40 hours a week when we finally had wage pressure, as people asked for simple cost of living adjustments after massive asset price inflation and corporate revenue.

-Allowing unions to be forced back to work, eliminating all bargaining for wages.

-Ignoring the cost of living increases from QE and unfunded stimulus, by not taxing the rich a dime to pay for any of it.

Am I wrong in any of this, I'd love a carefully thought out retort that isn't Cons bad.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I don't know if I'll say you're wrong but I will say that that feels like half a comment and you might have forgotten to add the part where you weave it all together. Or make it relate to the previous comments.

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[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago

On Jan 1st, the 3 major canada-wide parties were:

  • Liberal, headed by Justin Trudeau out of Papineau
  • Conservative headed by Pierre Poilievre out of Carleton
  • NDP headed by Jagmeet Singh out of Burnaby South

On May 1st the 3 major parties will be:

  • Liberal, headed by Mark Carney out of Nepean
  • Conservative headed by Pierre Poilievre(?) out of ?
  • NDP headed by ? out of ?
[-] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

NDP aren't even a major party anymore with 7 seats, sadly

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 month ago

They're not an "official party", but they still got 6% of the vote. But, because of FPTP they only got 2% of the seats. Bloc Quebecois got 6.4% of the vote and 6.7% of the seats. There are still a lot of people out there who would want to vote NDP, but who voted Liberal to achieve "anybody but Conservative". The plan worked, but I think they'd like some electoral reform.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn4jd39g8y1o

[-] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

I completely agree to be clear.

But "major party" means something in election parlance, and unfortunately because of all the required strategic voting, it means NDP won't be at the next debate.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

all the required strategic voting,

Much of BC was lost through three-way ties that the blues won by a nose. It seems that, for some ridings, strategy wasn't strong enough.

If two Oranges 'cross' to Red to give Mark a mandate, can they 'cross' back before the next election?

[-] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah I hope the fact that both the NDP and the LPC got screwed in BC on so many ridings causes their hopeful coalition government to actually implement voting reform this time.

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[-] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago

Pierre Poilievre likely to stay as party leader since he's very popular with the base. Unless someone like Doug Ford decides to fight him for the position.

[-] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago

Pierre is very not popular - when Trudeau quit he had a higher approval rating than Pierre. People this time were voting for the party, not for Pierre.

[-] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He's not popular overall, but he's very popular with the conversative base.

[-] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

The election results (and polling on leader specifically) do not back that claim up.

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[-] discomatic@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago

I loved him, but he tossed Jessica Wetz under the bus and the next day, he was posting thirst traps on TikTok.

[-] gonzo-rand19@moist.catsweat.com 11 points 1 month ago

Thanks for finally doing the right thing, Jagmeet! It only took your complete and utter defeat and losing official party status... but I guess it's better late than never. (Please elect a socialist leader now.)

[-] AlexLost@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago

While I was not a huge fan of Jagmeet, I don't think he was a bad leader. The Federal NDP had a tough go at this election as I am sure many people who would traditionally vote NDP voted to keep conservatives out of power and marked the Red Box. I certainly did.

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[-] xc2215x@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Not surprised he is stepping down. A very tough night.

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