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Tensions between India and Pakistan have escalated further after a top Pakistani official claimed early Wednesday to have “credible intelligence” that New Delhi will carry out a military action against Islamabad within the next two days.

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[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago
[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Stop reading the news.

If it happens it happens. If you see the flash, lay down prone on the ground with your head towards it and your hands covering your face. Otherwise until that happens, just carry on as normal with your life

[-] AnalogNotDigital@lemmy.wtf 5 points 1 week ago

I just skim stories and catch a general idea of what's going on for this reason.

'Is this something I can actionably do something about? No? Then don't worry about it.'

[-] silasmariner@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

stop reading the news
Because the news contrives to frighten you.

Sorry. Don't really like Morrissey but had no choice there

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago
[-] FatTony@lemm.ee 19 points 1 week ago

Before we all die in WW3 I'd just like to say: It's "Oh for fuck's sake."

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago
[-] cyphear@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

Since the sake belongs to the fuck, the possessive apostrophe is appropriate. It's not a contraction.

[-] silasmariner@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago

Actually this is a common misconception. Fucks sake is a rice wine from the Fucks region of Giveashit. Nothing to do with Sir Reginald Fuck despite appearances

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[-] khannie@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[-] Bunbury@feddit.nl 22 points 1 week ago

I suspect that’s exactly the reaction Pakistan is hoping for.

[-] khannie@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

On one hand I think you're right but on the other, if they're correct, I'd say they want India to know they're in their systems or have spies.

That kind of an opsec failure is going to be disconcerting at a minimum.

[-] Bunbury@feddit.nl 2 points 1 week ago

Well, if Pakistan got it right this might just be disconcerting enough for India to abort this planned attack . Even if Pakistan didn’t get it right or are maybe even bluffing it might create an international reaction that could cause India pause before any future attacks.

[-] LiamMayfair@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 1 week ago

ITT people claiming this could be a WW3 starter. Even if India engaged Pakistan militarily, I fail to see how that would lead to anything larger than a localised conflict.

Like, neither country is geopolitically significant enough for any major players to care at that level. Sure, India getting bogged down in war could affect supply chains around the world, but would any of the heavyweights like US, China, Russia or a semi-relevant NATO country think that would be worth their involvement? If Russia being on year 11 of their military invasion of a NATO-bordering country hasn't sparked a world war yet, I don't see how this would either.

[-] TechLich@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Since when is India not a major player? Last I checked they were the world's 4th biggest economy, have almost 20% of the population of the planet (more than four USes combined), 4th largest military spend and have nearly 200 nukes.

Not to say that it would be part of a world war but it sounds weird to say that they're not a heavyweight but Russia is, despite having double Russia's economic output.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

They both have nukes though

[-] vga@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

They've had these border skirmishes and terrorist attacks about every 2-3 years for the last 50 years without resorting to nukes.

[-] khannie@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Agree with everything you've said. They only thing is China has been contesting a North Eastern border with India for some time so they might take the opportunity for some shenanigans.

Still don't see it escalating beyond regional though as you said.

[-] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

If Modi thinks it'll help him stay in power, he'd probably do it.

[-] saltesc@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

The Intel:

👊🇮🇳🔥

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[-] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

If this causes nukes to fly, then it’s been nice knowing you all of if it causes WW3.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Same but also more real for me because I live in Mumbai. Probably the top target for Pakistani nukes.

[-] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Hope for the best my friend

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[-] tal@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They've had an actual (small) war before, subsequent to them both getting nuclear weapons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kargil_War

They did not use their nuclear weapons.

It also marks one of only two instances of conventional warfare between nuclear-armed states (alongside the Sino-Soviet border conflict).

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[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

it’s been nice knowing you all

Has it though?

[-] fakir@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago

The British did a 'divide and rule'. Religion was the tool used to do the division 75 years ago at the time of separation. Religion is the same tool used today to divide the country internally and manufacture hate and consent for war.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

The "everything is fault of the British" is such a cop out. India and the region had no trouble dividing themselves very publicly with caste systems, no?

People just need education.

[-] fakir@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The British popularized the phrase, which gives away the playbook. The rich and powerful use this playbook time and again to divide the masses. Education should help, but siloed propaganda is really effective to counter even education because propaganda uses fear & hate to bring out the animal in you, and when you're angry and scared you forget all reason and all education.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This playbook existed way before Britain did. Even in ancient India.

We know for a fact that one things works against all of these playbooks - education.

[-] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 2 points 1 week ago

Just to be technically correct, very little evidence suggests caste system was abused in ancient India, that maybe because figuring out ancient India is hard due to lack of archeological evidence. But most of the horrible abuses of caste system are documented around 900AD and later.

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[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 week ago

Not how I wanted to solve global warming.

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 5 points 1 week ago

I only learned about hostilities between the two countries after about 28-30 years on the planet (thanks, US edumacation system) and I still don't think I understand why they don't get along...

To any who are stuck in their countries as their governments choose the stupidest possible actions, you have my sympathies, and I wish you well in the coming days.

[-] Jordan117@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Border disputes (mainly Kashmir) worsened by the friction between a Muslim-majority Pakistan and a Hindu-majority India when both are led by increasingly nationalist governments, basically.

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ah yes, “my god(s) that I made up is better than your god(s) that you made up”

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[-] NotKyloRen@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

Pakistan was created by Indian separatists (I'm oversimplifying, but that's the crux). They're divided by religious groups (e.g. Pakistan is majority Muslim, while India is mostly Hindu (~80%).

[-] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

My impression of the conflict: The partition of British India into independent India and independent Pakistan was very violent and traumatizing for lots of people, and also left some unsolved border disputes. The independence of Bangladesh from Pakistan was likewise very violent and saw India helping the Bangladeshi people gain independence. Both events are long enough in the past that people could have gotten over the hate by now, except that it gets refreshed with new violence every few years. In the last few decades there's been several terror attacks in India that were sponsored by the Pakistani state. But now India too has a religious fundamentalist government, so maybe they'll be trying to return the favor. Authoritarians love creating external enemies, it helps them stay in control of their own population.

[-] BenjiRenji@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago

Isn't this just India posturing because of the Kashmir attack? The first threat about cutting off water was an empty one so now they are floating some military strike just to appear thst they care? I may eat my words here, but neither party is going to risk a full on war with an enemy with nukes over a place like Kashmir.

[-] MITM0@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

How is India posturing ? They ARE cutting off water

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[-] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

Please tell me they got it off Signal. So hot right now!

They really were just waiting for an excuse to start a war werent they?

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They been doing it for decades, India and Pakistan have been at odds for a very long time. One of the reasons why Indian don't trounce Pakistan, is nukes, which China has helped build during the Cold war. It's most 3 way conflict in a sense. Kashmir, and the northern part of India which china claims and vice versa.

[-] AntelopeRoom@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

WW3 heating up

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