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[-] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Edit: Some salty commenters here. This isn’t my graph, just one I grabbed. Notes aren’t mine.

I’m a huge proponent for inflation adjusted livable minimum wage- which should be close to $30 an hour these days. Also hugely worried about our housing cost trends.

I’m only pointing out that expecting games to cost 40-60 for life is a little silly- yall still paying $.10 for a loaf of bread? I remember when games inched from $40 to $60 and everyone lost their minds- no one complains about it anymore. Don’t wanna pay retail? Wait for sales, bundles, used copies.

[-] MrVilliam@lemm.ee 47 points 1 week ago

Okay, but now do housing and groceries and you'll see why people don't have extra money laying around for another Nintendo and its Mario kart.

Economics is significantly more complicated than a bar graph of inflation-adjusted video game price tags lol. Hell, even just value of each game in their respective release time period is more complicated than that. I doubt there's anything unique to this new game (other racing games have done the open world thing several times starting like 15 years ago), but the kart racer genre itself was new back in the 90s.

Okay, but now do housing and groceries and you'll see why people don't have extra money laying around for another Nintendo and its Mario kart.

Okay. So, they won't buy one then.
Yeah, people don't make enough money, I agree.

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[-] PineRune@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Edit: these notes have been addressed in OP's post

Note: Salary growth has outpaced inflation.

You know what else has outpaced inflation? The cost of living. Purchasing power for middle and lower class people is far less than what it used to be. "Inflation" doesn't account for that.

[-] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago

this argument is so fucking dumb

Volume of video game sales has changed monstrously over the years as it moved from a niche hobby to mainstream

SNES Mario kart - 8.76 million copies sold worldwide Switch Mario kart 8 - 67.34 million copies sold world wide.

SNES mario kart (inflation adjusted) earnings - 1,095,000,000 Switch Mario kart earnings - 5,252,520,000

Game dev budgets have obviously exploded in that time and nintendo doesn’t disclose their budgets but on average its estimated snes titles got about 1-2 million and switch/wii u titles got 30ish million. That’s a sizable increase in development that wildly outpaces inflation, for sure, but their earnings obviously did too.

[-] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Because they... sold more copies?

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[-] RadicalEagle@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

But isn’t it easier if I just ignore the nuance of economics and just place all the blame for my unhappiness on corporate greed?

I think it’d also be interesting to see the total production cost of each Mario Kart, and a total sales/revenue generated by each game.

[-] Zomg@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Games are also much easier to distribute now than they ever where, saving cost.

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[-] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I don’t see Diddy Kong Racing on there which is really the only one you need anyway.

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[-] NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This doesn’t mean anything. Something only has as much value as the customer is willing to pay. People don’t want to pay more than $60 for most new games being released today and companies need to accept that.

Fuck what it cost years ago.

Same goes for everything else. You could make the same argument for cars and trucks which are now reaching $50k USD for base features. Still doesn’t matter. Still overpriced.

Let’s talk about what we’ve lost too. Games used to come as a complete edition. Now you get the game and it’s unplayable on the first day without an update and even then still has features broke, waiting for an update weeks or months later. Not to mention DLC.

[-] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Nintendo games never go on sale. And if somebody buys a Switch game, dumps the ROM, and sells it to you, your Nintendo account gets banned because the ID in the header matches the one being distributed over the Internet.

[-] FreshLight@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

To your edit: Exactly! The only problematic trend I see is that physical copies are getting more scrace.

[-] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

The thing that graph doesn't take into account is barely anyone payed full price for those older games. Games used to lower prices to increase sales volume and those sale prices are significantly less than $80 even accounting for inflation.

[-] StaticFalconar@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Crash Team Racing Nitro-Fueled: A remaster of the classic

PlayStation kart racer, featuring Crash Bandicoot and his friends.

Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed: Characters from SEGA franchises race in vehicles that transform into boats and planes.

Diddy Kong Racing: Race with Diddy Kong and his friends in karts, planes and hovercraft.

Team Sonic Racing: A kart racer where you work together in teams, using team moves and ultimate abilities.

Nickelodeon Kart Racers Series: Features characters from various Nickelodeon shows.

Disney Speedstorm: A kart racer featuring characters from Disney and Pixar franchises.

KartRider: Drift: A free-to-play kart racer with a focus on drifting.

Lego Racers: Build and race Lego vehicles on various tracks.

Garfield Kart Furious Racing: Race as Garfield and his friends on themed tracks.

Konami Krazy Racers: Race as characters from Konami's popular franchises.

Blur: Combines arcade racing with vehicular combat and power-ups.

ModNation Racers: Features track creation and customization.

LittleBigPlanet Karting: Brings the creativity of LittleBigPlanet into a kart racing experience.

F1 Race Stars: A more arcade-style take on Formula 1 racing.

SuperTuxKart: An open-source kart racing game.

Starlit Kart Racing: A free-to-play kart racer with a variety of game modes.

[-] Undearius@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago

Konami Krazy Racers

I wonder why they didn't got for something like "Konami Krazy Karting"

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[-] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You have the best list here, but you forgot Wipeout series. Futuristic racing with weapons, set to electronic music.

[-] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 7 points 1 week ago

Crash Team Racing PS1 was IMHO better than Mario Kart N64. The wumpa fruit added a neat dimension, and the ability to select weapons for battle mode was great.

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[-] Davel23@fedia.io 6 points 1 week ago

There's a third Sonic racing game called Sonic and SEGA All Stars Racing.

[-] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Make sure you put two line breaks between every new line. Otherwise it kinda comes out as a blob. You can also use a dash and a space before each entry to get a bullet point.


Played a copy of Crash Team Racing a bit ago. Had a real good time with it.

[-] StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

Party animals has an almost 1:1 in terms of gameplay ripoff of Mario kart

[-] Mirodir@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 week ago

Out of curiosity: did you partly use AI to make this list? Some of the short descriptions read very oddly for a forum post, e.g. the "various tracks" part on Lego Racers.

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[-] anti_antidote@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

Not quite a clone, but Crash Tag Team Racing was a staple of my childhood

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[-] ch00f@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago
[-] ryokimball@infosec.pub 4 points 1 week ago

Also, Sonic Robo Blast 2 Kart

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[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 16 points 1 week ago

The Mario part. You can copy the Kart part all day. They've been doing so since at least the 64. See:

  • Diddy Kong Racing

  • Crash Team Racing

  • Burger King Pocketbike Racer

[-] ProfessorProteus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago
[-] applemao@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I love tuxcart but I can never find anyone else playing? Is the player base just that small?

[-] ProfessorProteus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Tbh I have no idea. I've only ever played single-player!

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[-] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

If I'm not mistaken, a large component of Nintendo's power comes from Japanese copyright laws being far more pro-copyright holder and Nintendo uses it to its full potential. In Japan, this sometimes results in prison sentences and often big fines. it's also applied outside the country against a consortium of universal copyright recognizing countries and so it can affect you regardless of your location although I forget how exactly.

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[-] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 10 points 1 week ago

Sonic and All-Stars Racing Transformed is oddly slept on. Great kart racer.

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 9 points 1 week ago

If you wanted to make a Mario Kart clone, copyright is easy enough to avoid. Nearly every other second-rate dev studio has managed to make a half-baked Mario Kart ripoff for whatever Nick Jr show they got the licensing to, so that part's simple.

The real issue is navigating the patent minefield that Nintendo has laid out.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Break out DOSBox and fire up Wacky Wheels from Apogee

...... Not particularly more recently there was a Crash Team Racing remake

Honestly coming up blank for anything else recentish in that genre

[-] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Wacky wheels was my jam

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[-] Jeffool@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Basically every kind of game needs a "MUGEN" for that genre. Then we just put in the content we want and theme it appropriately.

[-] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 4 points 1 week ago

It's crazy this hasn't happened yet. Kart racers are conceptually very simple games and are all very similar. CTGP kinda does this but is limited by Mario Kart's engine.

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[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

piracy makes for the easiest boycotts ever.

just saying.

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

I'm still busy enjoying their older consoles. They probably hate that.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

judging by how hard/expensive it is to obtain their older games on their newer consoles, yeah you bet they hate it.

luckily those are both easy to emulate and buy second hand.

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yep, I like to play their older games on a mix of original hardware, modding, and emulation.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

If you haven't tried modded Mario Kart Wii before, you're missing out.

A low enough amount that Warframe has a mario Kart esque minigame available in game

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I was going to buy a switch 2 (or attempt to), but at that cost… hell no. Not without dinner first.

[-] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

Bought it for €40

[-] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Haven't seen Dr Robotnik's Ring Racers mentioned yet. Open source game based on the Freedoom engine.

[-] Tuxman@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Modded Wii U playing online on Pretendo Network 😚👌

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago
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