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They are desperate to be cool, it's so cringe.

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[-] GluWu@lemm.ee 136 points 1 week ago

The thing they all share is that they are deeply unloved. Trump, musk, bezos, zuck, none of them have healthy loving families. They have noons they can genuinely connect with. And they all think by having more money and being more popular will fulfill that human need. But it never does, so they just keep going not realizing the path they chose doesn't end anywhere near what they desire. Money will never buy love and peace.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 79 points 1 week ago

And they all think by having more money and being more popular will fulfill that human need.

If that was all it was, then I'd feel sorry for them. No, they're trying to fulfill that need by being Great Men of History with Mighty Plans, but their Mighty Plans are all terrible, because they're horrible people.

[-] o1011o@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I think it's a mistake to imagine that these are good people who just need a little love. There are literally hundreds of millions of people who aren't getting enough love for proper human flourishing and it's not like that turned them all into fascists. The kind of evil exhibited by these people must be attributed to a fundamental enjoyment of the suffering of others.

[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Well statistically about 30% of people worldwide don't mind fascism so that's hundreds of millions of people too. I'm not sure I'd be willing to say a lack of loving relationships is the primary cause of that but I doubt solving that problem would hurt.

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[-] overload@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 week ago

I wouldn't challenge this view for Musk, Bezos, Trump. But Zuck gives me more of a "reformed (now married) incel that comes from an otherwise normal family environment vibe". His marriage seems at least typical, likely loving etc.

His product happens to be the most harmful for democracy and I consider him equal for worst of the bunch as a result, but I think it's explained by corporate/personal greed and being out of touch with reality.

[-] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago

I read some books by Alice Miller that discussed some childhoods of authoritarian rulers and they were all of unloved. They had not one adult stick up for them, be their advocate or helper, during their childhood years.

Many of us as children have been unwanted or unloved by our caregivers. Most of us had at least one adult: an uncle, grandmother, teacher etc, who truly tried to help at least once.

What the monsters in history had in common is an absence of evidence of even that happening for them. And their revenge as adults was terrible.

[-] theangryseal@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Man, I should have became an authoritarian ruler.

Instead I became isolated and I haven’t had a visitor in over a decade.

Fuck it. Vote for theangryseal!

For real though, maybe if I hadn’t ever used drugs haha. I had a lot of “friends” when I was living in that world. Might have stopped me. :p

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

That's a tired stereotype. Powerful people are unloved because they don't need to be loved. They are psychopaths, they have all the love they need, they are bored with the world and have nothing more to want.

People around you are unloved because they have problems.

Also money can buy you a cottage surrounded by nice trees near a river, healthy food, more house animals than you could want, a fast PC, jasmine and lilac bushes outside your window.

I think it can go a long way.

My irritation from this stereotype is because it kinda says the opposite of what it says. It feels like sublimated envy, expressed by saying that you don't envy them. Why talk about their money at all then.

I wouldn't envy anyone's money if that's all the difference between us, unfortunately money buys power and power is used to impose one's will upon me, and that I very much care about.

But your typical young Trotskyists in the Interwebs write whole articles consisting of Marxist vibes (a strong thing, especially in spring, but not enough) and envy to those having more. LOL, someone having more money is not our problem. Our problem is someone attacking us with it.

[-] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

No amount of money and power will ever scratch their itch

[-] db2@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

not realizing the path they chose doesn't end anywhere near what they desire

It'll end where they deserve though. Alone, despised and empty. No amount of money or stupid blue checkmarks will ever change that.

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[-] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Money will never buy love and peace.

True enough.

But, in the broken psyches of the ones you've mentioned, it buys perfectly serviceable alternatives which they can convince themselves actually does make them happy.

They are so broken that broken solutions actually work for them...

🤷‍♂️ 🤡 🖕

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[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago

I just started reading this book about Facebook and I am amazed how little they cared about how much power they had, and how oblivious they were of it.

These are companies that rule the world, but don't know what they want with it, other than for it to generate profit

[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 27 points 1 week ago

If I had as much power as them I'd at least make dogs that can speak esperanto.

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[-] Tournesol@feddit.fr 61 points 1 week ago

I have been prepared for evil, for greed, for cruelty, for injustice – but I did not anticipate that the people in power would also be such huge losers.

This. This is what I feel like

[-] mPony@kbin.earth 19 points 1 week ago

I felt like this in January when this was first published and I still feel like it today. I'm not really sure what it will take for things to change but I get the feeling that powerful and wealthy people do not want things to change.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago

Musk, Zuckerberg and Bezos-- you can tell they are insecure. They became rich and powerful and now want to stomp on people.

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[-] hansolo@lemm.ee 44 points 1 week ago

Because it's so much better when they're charismatic assholes?

[-] jlow@discuss.tchncs.de 95 points 1 week ago

I think it's much sadder (more sad? saddest) that people fall for such absurd douche bags. If they would at least be sexy and seem smart you could understand how people could be fooled but this is just too hard to watch.

[-] frickineh@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago

Yeah like, they have negative charisma, so it's extra baffling. I cannot imagine a world in which I'd support Donald Trump, but definitely not in this one where he routinely shits his own diaper. If he was only disgusting mentally but was a good speaker or handsome or whatever, it would make at least a little more sense

[-] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

I think they relate better to douchey, stupid people which allows them to more easily imagine themselves being rich one day.

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[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

So like, if instead of musk and zuckerburg, it were a 1990s George Clooney? The smug bastard....

[-] Tournesol@feddit.fr 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'll hate him just as much… but damn does he look good doing it.

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[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 week ago

A charismatic tyrant at least provides SOME excuse. People aren't necessarily monsters, they are just gullible.

When you have someone as decrepit and incompetent as trump who ALSO has a visible diaper bulge at his hips and who can't speak a coherent sentence? There is no argument other than people truly choosing hate above all else.

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[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 27 points 1 week ago

Imagine if, when Facebook rolled out, people were just like "no thanks, I'm good" and it never took off.

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

I wanted to. I liked Myspace. It has character. Some of it was cringe. But you could at least customize it. Facebook seemed so bland. But I had an ex GF that insisted on it and I didn't think it was worth breaking up over. I shouldn't have been such a pushover.

[-] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 7 points 1 week ago

You would break up over switching online platforms?

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[-] vga@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's exactly what happens when a Facebook competitor (possibly an ethical one) rolls out these days. Which is part of the problem. Zuck poisoned the idea.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 7 points 1 week ago

Friendica exists, and it's part of the Fediverse. It's not going anywhere.

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[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 12 points 1 week ago

Why wouldn't you? Only losers seek power, and only losers could and would fuck up this badly.

[-] DontMakeMoreBabies@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago

Little Dick Energy. That's what I think every single time I see any of these folks in the news. But apparently there are enough weird little aspirants out there that they do alright?

Fuck 90% of this species. 👍

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 27 points 1 week ago

We really gotta stop shaming people with little dicks like this. They’ve done nothing to deserve to be compared to these clowns.

[-] dumbass@leminal.space 22 points 1 week ago

Most people with little dicks are decent people and aren't sadistic and evil cunts, so the little dick isn't the issue.

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I don’t know if anyone else has noticed this but everything seems to be going down the tubes quite fast.

Yeah like having to accept all cookies to read the article.

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

Huh, it's almost like people who try to destroy the world are weird and shitty. I'm mostly surprised that anyone else is surprised.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

People expect the villains to be cool, because that's how they're portrayed in movies.

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[-] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Living your life to impress other men by hating women is one of the most embarrassing things I can imagine. Looking up to any of these men for how to live your life is even sadder.

I’ve worked hard to keep these kinds of men out of my personal life, to keep them away from me, out of my goddamn sight. Now they are in my face daily, not only influencing the world for the worse but making me nauseous at how uncool and pathetic they are, on top of their other sins. It’s too much, I can’t take it, there needs to be a change.

It’s time for us to start getting revenge on the nerds.

Sounds to me like they crave attention more than anything, poor insecure past-neglected angsty man-agers they are. Depopulating their various platforms and reducing their viewership would be nice. Sucks that anyone at all would feel inclined to lend them their ears and eyes when there are far better alternatives out there.

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[-] SaladKing@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

No one seems to have read Machiavelli’s stuff these days. It explains so much. Also, just history in general will tell you all about today’s happenings.

[-] Cocopanda@futurology.today 8 points 1 week ago

I will be happy if Zuck is Luigi’d before my death. Also Musk and Bozo.

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[-] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Embedding that pic would be a crime.

[-] resipsaloquitur@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago

Can’t they wear suits at least?

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