$5000???
Hahahahaha
Give me a house. Anything short of 1500 sqft, 3br, 1.5ba, on a half acre or more is just not enough for my gf and I to even consider.
And we are both gainfully employed.
1500sqft starts to feel cozy with a bunch of teenagers hanging out.
$5000 probably won’t cover the lost salary from missing work, if adequate recovery time is taken to say nothing of the true developmental needs of the infant. Try 2 years of salary, just to get to a point where daycare can take over for some of the time (and you get to pay that too!).
I get that “we need kids to grow the economy” but also, humans are killing the planet and if our population keeps growing, we’re going to just keep on killing it faster.
$5000? Does Trump still think it's the 1950s?
Does Trump still think it's the 1950s?
Very likely, yes.
It's just a child, Michael. How much could it cost?
YEA! Thats basically the whole thing
Other countries have tried this, and it was a spectacular failure
His arrogance means that he's incapable of learning from others though, so good fucking luck
It's not a monetary issue, otherwise the middle class would have more kids than the poor, which isn't the case. It's simply that when given the right and the means to control how many kids they have, people choose to not have enough to renew the population.
Same pattern everywhere as women gain rights over their body and as contraceptives become available. Even in periods where there was a strong middle class, even in countries where socio-economic inequalities aren't as much an issue. Northern European countries and Quebec are some of the places with the most socio-economic equity and their birthrate is down the drain.
Turns out having kids is hard on a body, and I don’t blame any woman for not wanting to go through that.
That and women might have other aspirations than being baby factories. Who knew women had their own hopes and interests?
Don’t quote me but I’m pretty sure research funding for women’s health is pathetic. More so when they found out that mice are given “👻sex hormones 👻”
I thought Japans idea to subsidize alcohol was really the low point of this "We need more babies but also want to do the least amount possible to help" trend.
Give me one year paid family leave and Medicare for all, then we'll talk.
Maybe a grant for college as well, so I can get a degree so that I might actually be able to participate in society at large.
Seriously, a one time payment that low won’t cover shit. The climate doesn’t support families to begin with like your comment points out.
Also you can’t ask people to have kids and cut funding to Medicaid & be actively dismantling Department of Education.. It’s counterintuitive to say we support families and then not support families. Oh but here’s some money.
Hey non-Americans, fun fact! If you have a baby here, you can expect $15,000+ in hospital bills.
$5,000 should cover that, right?
That's the most laughable part of this idea. Even with a great insurance plan that $5k is basically a hospital discount. Furthermore, the few people I know that are interested in having more kids and have "uneventful" home births under their belt, thus minimal medical bills, are all Hispanic.
Lmaooo no shit it won't work. Daycare alone is $20-$40k a year. A pittance one-time payment doesn't change the fundamental calculus of how fucking expensive everything is now
anyone else think this shit is fucking weird?
It makes more sense when you realize that money has solved all of Donald Trump's problems in the past. Get a little too handsy with a woman? Pay her off to keep quiet. Have a business partnership or contract you want to get out of? Pay lawyers to harass them in court until they give up.
Heck, he doesn't even need to use his own money most of the time, he can spend out of one of his companies like it's a slush fund then declare bankruptcy, leaving business partners and banks with the bills.
He is now running the government like one of his privately owned companies, and using our money to try and solve his problems. Give them a pittance to go away, and when they don't, you can say "we gave them a chance" before kidnapping them.
Why do I have a feeling the administration would still try to find ways to not pay nonwhite families having kids?
Trump was propped up by people who believe this bogus "Great Replacement" theory and I don't think they would be willing to back down from that stance on account of a generally declining population.
This is exactly the plan. Of course this kind of thing will only ever be meant for white parents.
At least offer free healthcare and child birth, that’s $30,000 out of pocket if you’re middle class.
Trump: "Gotta save the government money"
Also Trump: "Just throw money at it, maybe it will fix itself"
There is no plan, just incompetence.
He "could" TOTALLY pay his way into a baby boom.
Step 1: Tax the rich. Lower the pressure on the lower and middle classes.
Step 2: Fix housing pricing so that a single hard-working person can afford a house, a car, and two kids without their partner having to work.
Step 3: Put some guardrails in place to stop the 2-3 companies that are buying up everything. Give medium and small business a chance to thrive without needing to be purchased by a giant company.
Step 4. Fix healthcare so that the family above gets 100% coverage for whatever happens. Pay for it with Step 1.
Is $5000 gonna resurrect my wife if my shit ass state policies force her to continue a dangerous pregnancy and she dies prior to giving birth? Also, fuck you.
Add at least one zero to that, ideally two.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/mapped-the-cost-of-raising-a-child-by-u-s-state/
Multiply by 18 years, closer to the 500'000 figure.
Youre not gonna get the eugenics you want with this. The most likely audience is people with short-sighted need for cash, aka the working poor.
This cuts out the middle. This is what they want. You need a poor desperate sick and uneducated underclass to serve the super rich. You don't want anyone new in the club.
Hilarious that the only concept he can come up with is UNDER paying for things he wants hahahahaha
No amount of money will convince a meaningful amount of people to have kids if they can't reasonably believe their children will have a good life. Climate disasters, pollution, financial struggle, no access to property, crushing work life, unemployment, racism, unfair public policies, regressing social rights. All of these have to be addressed seriously before you can even start dreaming about reaching replacement birth rate. Fascist governments will go for an easier solution: enslave women.
This is how you get Idiocracy. The people that would take advantage of this would be the people you don't want to over-breed.
And the same people who are likely to vote for whoever his fascist successor ends up being.
Wow, look at that! The price of strollers just went up 5k!
Replace strollers with basically anything related to birth or infants. 5k more to spend? 5k more to earn by big business selling wares.
This assumes the hospital doesn't determine that you seem to owe 5k more for that one out of network service provider they slipped in while you were distracted during birthing.
If $5000 is a lot to you, he's really not interested in there being more of "your type" of person.
Kind of hard to promote getting pregnant when they are actively trying to take away abortion rights! That's like asking someone to walk a tight rope, but then take away the safety net.
Just birthing the damn thing is like $50,000. He can shove the $5,000 right up his ass and I hope he gets paper cuts up there too.
He’s making everything more expensive, gutting medicade to nothing (50% of babies are born on medicade), taking away food stamps, getting rid of the department of education, gutting hud, gutting head start, getting rid of free lunches in schools, sending us into a Great Depression, stripping worker protections and removing any hope for a future….but yeah 5k sure that will cover your first 15 minutes of delivery. What a joke this man is
There's already an annual child tax credit: https://taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/what-child-tax-credit
I'm sure they didn't even check if birth rates are influenced by this...
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