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[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 218 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The original book "Star Wars: From the Adventures of Luke Skywalker", which came out before the movie. Literally describes Emperor Palpatine as Nixon.

Star Wars has always been political.

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[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 126 points 2 weeks ago

To be fair, the Rebels weren't Asian stereotypes, how were the dummies supposed to recognize that?

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 64 points 2 weeks ago

searches for "Han Solo's Asian Friend"

Result:

[-] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 23 points 2 weeks ago

I always saw him as a Mexican stereotype

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 19 points 2 weeks ago

"There's only one Mexican in Star Wars and of course they make Chewy sound re----ed." - Gabriel Iglesias

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[-] Kernal64@sh.itjust.works 68 points 2 weeks ago

It's astounding any living thing which is that deeply stupid can survive to adulthood.

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

We've made it so easy.

Every so often I wonder how people could be so stupid and/or heartless to bring the world to where it is today and then I see an American tweet something outstandingly silly/inmoral and I remember, lol.

Also, Americans use the word "political" to mean ethical nowadays. And whenever they recoil because you said something like "hey, wars for profit are wrong" or "gay people shouldn't be killed just because they're gay" and ask you to stop being 'political', they're just admitting they don't stand for anything, no self-restraining rules nor lofty ideals. This is why the Nazis could also go as far as they went: "just follow the leader and I too will succeed, I don't believe or stand for anything except what has been told to me and I'm a good boy for following". They want/got the bag, and fuck you, basically.

[-] theparadox@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Also, Americans use the word "political" to mean ethical nowadays.

A certain segment of our population has been told to equate words like "political" and "woke" with "That person is saying or doing something that might influence someone about something I've been told to disagree with".

It's incredibly horrifying how quickly this same segment of the population has been conditioned to view the rest as "weak, sensitive, entitled weirdos who can't handle even the slightest criticism without seeing it as a existential threat" while simultaneously being conditioned to throw a tantrum when anyone takes an action to support something they've been told they should disagree with.

[-] tryagain@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 weeks ago

Americans use the word "political" to mean ethical nowadays.

This is wonderfully succinct and I will be stealing it, please and thank you.

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[-] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 11 points 2 weeks ago

Every so often I wonder how people could be so stupid

Most of the world's large predators are extinct or on the verge of extinction. Interpret that how you want.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 58 points 2 weeks ago

Political: the act of making people feel bad about their dumb choices and opinions

[-] Slovene@feddit.nl 15 points 2 weeks ago

Woke: whatever a right winger doesn't like

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[-] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 56 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

this post is cool and right but remember that disney is complicit in genocide

they are far from progressive

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[-] guywithoutaname@lemm.ee 47 points 2 weeks ago

Really there's nothing that's not political in some way. Politics is the expression of human wills and desires and people tend to say something is political when they disagree.

[-] Belgdore@lemm.ee 23 points 2 weeks ago

Literally. Politics is all about the power dynamics between people. If there are two or more people there will always be a power dynamic even if the two are on good terms and do not exert power over each other.

It’s like how you can always describe the color in any given painting, even when the painting is monochromatic.

[-] modeler@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Woah there, that's leftist woke propaganda, talking about human wills and desires. I was brought up apolitical so I'm sensitive to these things - I can only vote for the Republicans because every other party is just too political.

/s

[-] HailSeitan@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)
[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Did you know there is a vegan heavy metal artist that named one of his songs your username?

https://youtu.be/eovuIfeH2k4

[-] HailSeitan@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago
[-] gajahmada@awful.systems 12 points 2 weeks ago

Region locked, unfortunately.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 2 weeks ago

George Lucas isn't approved for international distribution.

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This is sort of wrong, though. lucas has said he drew inspiration from all the tiny country vs. giant empire fights - american revolution, vietnam, the winter war, Yi Sun-Sen's defeat of Japan, etc.

Vietnam was the most culturally prominent in the US, but beyond the superficialities (little force defeats big force) the stories don't really track at all. Like: there was no deathstar moment, there wasn't even a single decisive victory (the US just got sick of the meatgrinder and public pressure overcame the political will to continue). The US also wasn't defeated then replaced New Republic style, the NV weren't going it alone in their fight against the empire and nobody threw Kissinger off a cliff at the end (mores the fucking pity),

He drew ideas from a LOT when writing it; presenting it like it was inspired by a single event is pretty disingenuous.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 48 points 2 weeks ago

George Lucas wrote some stuff, and his ex-wife worked with him in some capacity. There were some that said George Lucas was a visionary genius and he also had a wife and so of course she was involved. There were some that said that George Lucas was a big self-important orangutan who couldn't write for shit, and his ex-wife fixed it all up and turned it into an epic story because she had some apparently pretty significant screenwriting talent. And who's to say? Surely there would be no way of going back in time and examining this intimate process in retrospect and finding out.

And then, the wife having left, he wrote the prequels without her involvement, and the world got its answer.

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Lmao well said.

[-] Goretantath@lemm.ee 13 points 2 weeks ago

Shit, we gotta get that ex-wife back in charge of star wars to fix it again.

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[-] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Lots of good points here. It would have been cool if Star Wars had a more complex geopolitical (galactopolitical?) environment, including more instances of multilateral politics.I feel like this was touched on in the prequels, but it still kinda boiled down to "good guys vs bad guys." The general audience will get what it wants. That's how markets are supposed to work.

Still, I feel like it was a missed opportunity to have a politically complex sequel rather than just dialing up the space-wizard lore. We could have also gotten some more complex characters rather than just bad guys or good guys that change at the end. People are way more complicated than that.

It probably would have been better if Warner Bros. Had acquired the IP rather than Disney. I'd watch HBO Star Wars all day long. I get why that wouldn't work for their marketing position, but it would have been worth it to me to hear an Ewok say, "Yub yub, motherfucker" before offing the imperial officer that burned his village.

Also, we learn that Tibbit the Ewok has a bad glowroot problem, wasn't entirely faithful to his partner, Nubni, and was a bit of a negligent father. His character doesn't really improve, but he does save the village. The resultant fame nearly destroys him, and he goes back to spicebark farming with his toxic affair partner. The Alliance turns out to be as oppressive to the Ewoks as the Empire, but they have better PR. The other Ewoks label Tibbit as a traitor for protesting the Alliance he fought for. Ewoks boycott his spicebark. He loses everything. Grikk finds his body, glowroot seeping out of his mouth. Clutched in his lifeless paw is a child's drawing. It was the one Grikk gave him on Father's Day over a decade ago. Tibbit had yelled at Grikk and thrown the drawing away in an intoxicated rage. That was the last time Grikk had seen Tibbit. To think he had dug it out of the trash and carried it for ao many years. Grikk held his dead father's paw with tears in his eyes. "Yub yub, Dad. Yub yub."

Okay, Shakespeare it's not, but tell me if it's worse than any scene in the sequels.

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[-] CodeInvasion@sh.itjust.works 37 points 2 weeks ago

I prefer the 18th century Carl Von Clausewitz's definition of war:

War Is politics by other means

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_von_Clausewitz

[-] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

he followed up to simultaneously say he was joking while also doubling down 🤦

screenshot of follow-up tweet linked below

https://xcancel.com/theronster/status/1538239717032042497

[-] frezik@midwest.social 20 points 1 week ago

Lol, he's literally doing the "I was just pretending" comic.

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[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I wonder why BioWare was pressured to cut out so much of Juhani’s content in KOTOR. I don’t think that was a BioWare decision - Jade Empire and Mass Effect both had lesbians. I’m not really willing to give George Lucas rainbow a lot of rainbow points.

If Finn and Poe’s chemistry had been allowed to blossom naturally, I think the sequels would have been much better. The attempted “theme” of “it doesn’t matter where you come from, you can shape your own destiny” just would be so much better if the story had been about Finn’s growth and reconciliation with his past work for the First Order. Then you don’t have Rose (and the subsequent ridiculous internet harassment that poor actress received) and the aborted character/subplot.

You can even do Palpatine returning, just have it be more like the Thrawn clone shit. Less Jedi stuff, more people stuff. You’re even copying the structure of the original trilogy that way - Rey is off doing her Jedi training stuff, while Poe and Finn are on related adventures that lead them to growing closer and closer.

Like I’m 99% sure the actors for both characters have even said that they agreed with the fact that those characters were needing each other.

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[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Close to kind of getting it - Lucas has compared the empire in Star Wars to both the American empire during the Vietnam War, and the British empire during the American Revolution.

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[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 week ago

Wars are political in nature, it doesn’t even need to get to this shallow of a depth

[-] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

"War is a mere continuation of politics by other means" -Carl von Clausewitz

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[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago

!selfawarewolves@lemmy.world (non-.ml community for those that prefer)

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