So ICE is the American version of Gestapo?
Yes.
It has been since its inception
These are going to be members of white supremacist gangs. Arm yourselves. This is the same thing Hitler did
So he fires thousands of federal workers so he can hire his very own Gestapo? It must be infuriating to lose your job just so he could hire some pardoned J6 felon to hunt down brown people.
Government employees who reclaim billions of dollars in fraud(CFPB): laid off.
Government employees who break the law and behave more like Nazi SS: we need 20k more.
Says everything you need to know about this government.
Remember how during the election campaign he had sign-up forms for the maga loyalists who attended his rallies and were interested in working for his government?
This is the next step in that plan. The first step was having Musk and his DOGE lackeys gut the federal government of anyone who was employed in areas they didn't like, it those who might be critical of them.
Now they are moving to step 2: they are going to use subs of the freed-up wages from those lost positions to flood the federal government with their loyalist grunts. And ICE is the perfect place for most of them. These people will get to strut around in their armed forces paraphernalia, persecuting immigrants and people with darker skin than them.
I'm surprised I haven't seen any mention of those rally sign-up forms anywhere recently. But this is all part of a wider plan.
This is the first I've heard of sign-up forms. Got a link for that?
Still, though, there are all those Jan 6'ers who already committed violence for this man once, and they were rewarded for it. I think it's certainly they will sign up to do violence for him again.
Here's a link from a December 2024 article. It mentions how the people behind Project 2025 had an online questionnaire. I remember reading somewhere that I'm addition to being an promoted on maga web sites, the questionnaire was also heavily promoted at Trump's rallies. I can't find a link on that now, but it makes perfect sense that's one of the places where they'd be advertising it and gathering names. It would be a very effective way of reaching those people.
Pertinent parts of this article, which again was published before he was sworn in, include:
Among Donald Trump’s many disconcerting campaign promises is a pledge to fire tens of thousands of federal employees and replace them with loyalists.
Project 2025’s online questionnaire for landing job in the next Trump administration asks about the influences on applicants’ “political philosophy.” According to one alumnus of the first Trump administration, the idea is to “see that you’re listening to Tucker, and not pointing to the Reagan revolution or any George W. Bush stuff.”
It almost makes me miss the first term when he had no plan
He still has no plan. This is somebody else's plan, and they just whisper it into Grandpa's ear and let the dementia do the rest.
The first step was actually pardoning those J6 criminals. He's going to try and get them deputized to be his lil'Hitler SS, you watch.
Y'all constantly go on about that fucking dumb ass 2nd amendment, here's a threat to your free state.
It's not a threat to them. They want their christofascist ethnostate.
You realize the people that don't shut up about the 2nd ammendment, are the assholes who will join ICE for weapon upgrades
Holy shit this is bad. There's already tons of reports of the already expanded ICE field personnel calling detainees "Mexican bitches" and not following well-established law and law enforcement laws and procedures. At least with local law enforcement, you still get some people joining because they're true believer types that want to really protect and serve. Not everyone, sure, there's plenty of asshats in local enforcement, but there's always a few boy scout types that put on the uniform thinking of helping grandma cross the street and stopping actual bad guys instead of shooting minorities. Nobody who wants to do good in the world is going to be joining ICE right now. It's basically MAGA welfare; get paid to be a gun carrying shitheel whose only qualification is being able to spot brown people. He's effectively making a gestapo here.
The Gestapo were evil but not stupid. The closest equivalent to ICE in Nazi Germany would have been the SA.
That's a good point. The gestapo didn't have large numbers either did they?
People in America don't really know the difference, but we do learn about the Storm Troopers/Brownshirts, and the SS. The Gestapo was kind of lumped in with the military and paramilitaries.
Edit: Thinking about it. We're at the stage where feds are the SS. The Gestapo was pretty much absorbed into the SS.
So, we're going to have even more poorly trained ICE officers rounding people up to be sent to concentration camps. People who have no idea how to validate documents. People who don't understand the different types of legal statuses. People who want nothing more than to round up anyone with brown skin, regardless of their status. People who know that due process is dead because we can't afford five million trials.
Ignoring what anyone thinks of undocumented immigrants, people with legal status are going to get caught in this. Some of them are going to go to camps. Some of them are going to be deported. Some of them are going to die. There will be more and more "mistakes" with no attempt at remediation.
I have no doubt that even citizens are going to die as a consequence of this.
They don't know the legal nuances, and they don't care. They just want to kill people they don't like with impunity, and they will get their chance. There will be an outcry at the first few murders, but then there will be so many that it will become routine, and the news won't even cover it.
All things considered, color me impressed if in 60 days the number is half that.
its not difficult to put chuds in uniforms. training them was always the difficult bit
Training? Is it really that hard to kidnap random (non-"white") people and deport them to concentration camps?
nope, which is exactly my point
Aahh, so the SS is about to arrive
Whoever is going to be in charge should seriously watch his back, though
Yeah, this is more like the SA.
SA leadership was shot dead in a nightly purge when they had outlived their usefulness.
Apply, interview, whole nine. Take the job, get all the way through the training, then quit or sabotage.
I actually wanna try this, it would be fascinating. Any idea where the jobs are posted?
Most federal jobs are all posted at USAjobs.gov you'll just need to play around with the search filter.
I'm ready
That’s 20k new hires with families and home addresses that can be doxxed. I am NOT saying violence is the answer, but these 20k people should absolutely live in worry for their families’ safety because of their participation in this gestapo.
Anonymous, where are you?
Edit: here is a shot from an ICE raid in California, with a very clear shot of an "agent."
We’ve just got to start pulling their face masks down in confrontations like yesterday’s. Once we have full face on camera we have them.
So all the federal budgetary RIFs were for what?
That was so the Russian asset could dismantle this country.
ice “troops”?…
This doesn’t sound good.
Everyone who hates ice should apply and then just be shit at their jobs. Deport nobody. Lose paperwork. Say you can't find the person. Then if you get fired they just hire someone else who's screwing things up from the inside.
They'll still be nurnberged afterward.
They'll be checking everyone's social media, and they'll find new recruits, and new victims, at the same time.
Hey Republicans, you better stand up against this shit if you're against it. This nazi shit is on your conscience.
Over the last 4 years, the United States has endured a full-scale invasion of aliens entering and remaining in the country illegally, causing a relentless onslaught of crime, vagrancy, violence, and death in countless American communities. This lawless invasion has also limited the capacity of American schools and hospitals to provide for American citizens and has diverted billions of dollars in Federal, State, and local social services from Americans in need.
causing a relentless onslaught of crime, vagrancy, violence, and death
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States
The population adjusted crime rate has basically never been lower than it has been for the past decade, in the history of the USA
https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU01/20250122/117827/HHRG-119-JU01-20250122-SD004.pdf
Immigrants, especially undocumented immigrants, have a lower crime rate than US born citizens.
Fash always lie.
He wants to deputize the gravy seals and have them round up anyone they don’t like.
Beefing up the gestapo under the guise of immigration enforcement. Meanwhile the shelves are starting to dwindle down and things might start to get a bit restless. The "homegrowns" are next...
So insane. We don't even have an immigration problem of any real size. This dipshit is tearing this country apart and is focused on bullshit like ICE and the number of dolls a 15 year old should be getting, according to the game show host in the WH.
Where's the money coming from?
Money printer go brrrrr for anything fascist. Always has been.
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