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[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 8 points 11 hours ago

When I first joined lemmy I didn't know about the tankie triad so I wandered into a thread where all the hexies were telling me how much more propaganda Americans are fed than anyone else in the entire world, and when I tried to point out NK (because there's so much propaganda there the citizens aren't even allowed to see anything outside their country) I got told I was too brainwashed to understand how cool NK was.

Pretty sure there are still precisely 0 hexies who've moved to NK, despite it being the best country on Earth apparently.

[-] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 hours ago

Don't get me wrong, Americans really are fed an absurd amount of propaganda, and it's as likely (if not more so) to come from private sources as it is from the government. Watching American media from the outside is a wild ride, and it's no wonder everyone is so extreme.

That said, the DPRK is on another level entirely.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago

'pweese give us donations so we can censor you more'

[-] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago

This almost feels like elaborate satire.

Does Dessalines actually believe what he says? Or is this some sort of "end justifies the means" attempt at "counter-propganada"? I am genuinely curious what the story is here.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

~~yes, they legitimately believe this.~~

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

but then why don't they want to live there?

do we even know roughly where does he live?

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 14 hours ago

Oh, well, actually, i take back what I said.

They don't legitimately believe in what they say. They're in too deep to admit fault.

[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 7 points 22 hours ago

He sure is damn free arguing with people and then banning when people fires back.

[-] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 42 points 1 day ago

Imagine how much work could be done on Lemmy if Dessalines spent half as much time developing it as they do banning dissent and wrongthink. And then they wonder why people are so reluctant to donate to them.

[-] Stamau123@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

What this moron is a dev? Hahahaha

[-] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago

Yup. Dessalines and Nutomic, both very problematic in their own stupid ways.

I wouldn't get my phone fixed at a shop where half the hours billed are the owner shitposting on social media. Why should anyone pay for Lemmy development when the developers are scamming like this?

[-] sheepy@lemm.ee 57 points 1 day ago

Imagine the amount of cognitive dissonance you'd need to endure to think NK is not a dictatorship.

Enough to make me think they are well aware they are defending a dictatorship, but you never know. Something something Hanlon's razor and all.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Imagine the amount of cognitive dissonance you'd need to endure to think NK is not a dictatorship.

Setting aside dessalines' views on living in North Korea, probably goes the other way too, considering what Internet access is like in North Korea:

https://www.wired.com/story/internet-reality-north-korea/

https://archive.ph/lC0oi

“A librarian sits between two internet users and continuously monitors what people on both sides are searching up,” Kim said in testimony to the researchers. “Every five minutes, the screen freezes automatically, and the librarian must do a fingerprint authentication to allow further internet use.” A state security officer was also always nearby, they said.

People were allowed to use the internet for an hour, and if someone wanted more time, they would need to obtain new permission, Kim said. It took around two days to get permission from authorities to use the internet, a task requiring approvals from various officials. If someone applied too often, they would be made to wait, Kim said. “Every Korean website is blocked, and only Chinese or English websites are available.”

A few dozen families with connections to Kim Jong-Un and some foreigners have unrestricted access to the global internet, while a “few thousand” people—including government officials, researchers, and students studying IT—can access a surveillance-heavy version of it, according to the report and previous research. North Koreans like Kim who are allowed some foreign travel, usually for business, can sometimes access the global web while abroad.

North Korea probably considers Lemmy or anything like it to be a dire threat to state security, would never permit its people to see it or access information on it. Totally undermine state control of the information sphere.

[-] MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Isn't hexbear banned in China?

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

It is, yeah. I think lemmygrad is the same.

[-] Donkter@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

I've said it before but it's ridiculous the complete conspiracy brain of tankies to believe that the whole world is being systematically lied to about these states in particular by every world government and news source but somehow the free, public forums where they get their information are the only right ones.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

I mean, let's say its not as bad as our governments say. Its still verifiably a dictatorship, a hereditary one at that.

I think it’s in many ways as bad as it is caricatured. Just our governments are far far far closer to it than most people realise.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

It truly is a shitty time to love Democracy. Or a great time if you're the fighting type I guess.

[-] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

But if we don't give them money Lemmy will die!!!

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 1 day ago

Okay with most communist/"communist" states being practicing heavy censorship tankies at least have their excuse with places like NK and China, but goddamn it takes a special kind of asshole to carry water for Assad's Syria.

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