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After a year and a half of genocidal atrocities, the editorial boards of numerous British press outlets have suddenly come out hard against Israel’s genocidal onslaught in Gaza.

The first drop of rain came last week from The Financial Times in a piece by the editorial board titled “The west’s shameful silence on Gaza,” which denounces the US and Europe for having “issued barely a word of condemnation” of their ally’s criminality, Then came The Economist with a piece titled “The war in Gaza must end,” which argues that Trump should pressure the Netanyahu regime for a ceasefire.

It is odd that it has taken all these people a year and a half to get to this point. I myself have a much lower tolerance for genocide and the mass murder of children. If you’ve been riding the genocide train for nineteen months, it looks a bit weird to suddenly start screaming about how terrible it is and demanding to hit the brakes all of a sudden.

These people have not suddenly evolved a conscience, they’re just smelling what’s in the wind. Once the consensus shifts past a certain point there’s naturally going to be a mad rush to avoid being among the last to stand against it.

This is after all coming at a time when the Trump administration is beginning to rub Netanyahu’s fur the wrong way, recently prompting the Israeli prime minister to say “I think we’ll have to detox from US security assistance” when Washington went over Tel Aviv’s head and negotiated directly with Hamas to secure the release of an American hostage. The US is reportedly leaving Israel out of more and more of its negotiations on international affairs in places like Yemen, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. Something is changing.

So if you’re still supporting Israel after all this time, my advice to you is to make a change while you still can. There’s still time to be the first among scoundrels in the mad rat race to avoid being the last to start acting like you always opposed the Gaza holocaust.

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[-] LostWon@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I'm sure in addition to what's been publicly stated as happening right now being indefensible even to the most in-denial people out there (at least out of those who want to be able to believably claim they care at all about human rights), it helps that in the UK at least, cases have been moving forward against war criminals with dual citizenship. (Identified "veterans" of the genocidal campaign have been charged elsewhere as well but I haven't heard how those cases are progressing yet.)

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Pretty rich that these outlets condemn governments for 'having “issued barely a word of condemnation” of their ally’s criminality' when they should have been asking this question a year and a half ago instead of engaging in the complicity. That's the fucking job of a free press, which they shirked.

Governments aren't going to do the right thing without pressure, but despite everyone in the public (with a spine) yelling about genocide, they never put any pressure on.

[-] ZephyrXero@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

The title would have been more accurate as Multiple UK media outlets... Western incorrectly implies this is happening in the US too

[-] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 5 points 3 hours ago

Now that the genocide is all but over, it's time to bulldoze the rubble, and rebuild. Within a few months of Oct 7, Kushner was already negotiating to build luxury hotels, resorts, and condos on the the Gaza waterfront. They had a game plan from the outset, which has likely been in place for a long time, just waiting for a justification to go after it. October 7 provided that tipping point.

Then HitlerPig started talking about taking over Gaza, and controlling it, calling it the Gaza Riviera. Clearly, they want to create a Jewish Dubai, where rich Jews, and everybody else, could spend their money with somebody other than Muslims.

HitlerPig's "Secretary of Faith" has even come out to say that every American Christian should make a pilgrimage to Israel, or God won't let them into heaven. Imagine if every Christian had to make the Christian equivalent of the Muslim Hajj, and they had to visit HitlerPig's new Gaza Riviera, and stay in his hotels and eat in his restaurants?

HitlerPig was talking about this the last time he was visiting with Genocidal Bibi, talking about America (obviously meaning himself) controlling it, and clearly making his visitor very uncomfortable. This is Israeli sovereign territory, land they consider literally Sacred. They didn't like having to cede it to the Palestinians, and they aren't going to like ceding it to America, or HitlerPig, any more than Palestine.

Now that the genocide is all but over, it's time to manage HitlerPig's grand expectations, and he won't like that.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Better 60 years too late than never

[-] altphoto@lemmy.today -5 points 3 hours ago

Only those in power. The rest of us complain that the Palestinian assholes started it but then the Israel assholes took it out on all the wrong people.

[-] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 4 points 1 hour ago

Only if you consider history starting in October 7th.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago

Israelis started it. There is no fault with Palestinians resisting occupation.

[-] altphoto@lemmy.today 1 points 59 minutes ago

Not the people. Only the assholes in charge. The difference is important. I'm American, I'm not an American asshole ordering shelling some innocent people. I go to work and go home and feed the kids. I vote for those who I think will make America better but that's as far as I am to beings an asshole to other countries. Our gob right now is not aligned with our wishes. Same for the Palestinian people. Whoever started it.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 minutes ago

Were the Nazis responsible for the Holocaust or was it all on mustache man?

[-] Count042@lemmy.ml 1 points 32 minutes ago* (last edited 15 minutes ago)

If you moved to the slave states before the civil war, you would absolutely be one of those assholes even if you didn't enslave someone, or were in charge.

If you were a white South African during the apartheid years, and didn't leave as soon as possible EDIT: or fight the apartheid state, you were one of those assholes.

If you were a white Rhodesian... Actually, for this one, you were just an asshole, no qualifications.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 28 points 11 hours ago

A lot of liberal media outlets are more willing to criticize now that they can pin it on Trump specifically, rather than having to admit it's a bipartisan genocide

[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

The amount of people who act like all of these issues are from trump, and that the republican party isn't the result of a larger issue is annoying.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 51 minutes ago

He's the sin eater for western capitalism

[-] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 11 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Every current politician in the world should be made to wear a badge, as long as they hold office, that says: "I stayed silent under the Genocide in Gaza!"

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

We should carve a star of david on their foreheads.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 hours ago

Many of them supported it

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 13 hours ago

The best time to stop the genocide was a year and a half ago. The next best time is now.

[-] WhatsTheHoldup@lemmy.ml 10 points 12 hours ago

Idk I feel like it could have ended a little earlier than that.

[-] vfreire85@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago

like in 1948.

[-] Majestic@lemmy.ml 61 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Only time will tell however I suspect this is strategic dishonesty and narrative manipulation. Specifically planting these seeds of 'honesty' and doubt they can reference back to in 15 years to claim they were impartial and not totally rags of the bourgeoisie and Anglo-American imperialism. They know if they get caught just being stridently wrong for years that hurts public trust in them which lowers their propaganda value to the bourgeoisie and empire planners. But if they can pivot like this, even if they don't stick it out they can point to this and claim, oh we got that one wrong but we had dissenting opinions and we can change, we can change, which is the same kind of narrative America uses to convince its population it's not an amoral evil empire and hasn't been since inception. Admit to crimes in the past or when they're already mostly done, say you're sorry for the crimes or they were wrong. Claim to have changed and learn from them, continue committing new crimes, repeat the cycle forever and the poor saps, the indoctrinated children will believe they live in a country that can change and was flawed but constantly improving instead of just constantly inventing new crimes and victims and excuses.

This is also what is so foolish about the conservative rage about schools allegedly teaching kids to "hate America" by teaching about past crimes and atrocities. They don't understand that it's a relief valve. That it teaches those but also whitewashes the crimes and allows new ones by constantly apologizing for the past but never changing the present. And without that kind of valve if you have any kind of educated population you have problems as people start connecting the present to the past. Probably why they also want to gut education entirely and replace it with Evangelical fundamentalism.

So IMO, no forgiveness. This is a cynical ploy, if you weren't condemning 'israel' as an apartheid occupation settler state before Oct 7th and you were in a position to have an educated and informed opinion like being a journalist then you're scum. If 8 months after Oct 7th deep into the accelerated phase of the open genocide which has been continuing at various tempos for half a century you were not against them then you're scum, you're an apologist for genocide, you're Goebbels. If you weren't acknowledging the legitimate right of Hamas to violent resistance and therefore the legality of Oct 7th after a year you were on the side of the genocidal oppressors in muddying the waters at the least.

This is also I think part of the pivot to heap blame for all of this on Netanyahu, to basically put this all in his lap. To say yes atrocities against humanity (they'll waffle on genocide as the right term) were done but they're all the fault of this one guy, not 'israel' as a whole which has always been and will always be a settler colonial project built on genocide and land theft and religio-racial supremacy. And certainly that the west is blameless and didn't know. Absolutely at all costs that it wasn't the west doing anything wrong. That way once they kick Bibi out of office there they can claim the zionist project has changed because that one uniquely bad man is gone, ignoring the massive support his genocidal policies have, ignoring the massive documented racism and hatred and genocidal intent among the entirety of 'israeli' society. They will do this to save the greater project of 'israel' as a western colonial outpost by sacrificing one leader and a few other usual suspects in the sphere of public opinion condemnation. And they will do this to pretend their own hands are and always were clean and that they were just duped, misled by this scheming Jew and oh wait they're doing classic anti-semitism but they're allowed to do that because it's been redefined as being against 'israel' and anything else including literal Nazi salutes is liable to be defended by the zionist entity and their western backers.

[-] network_switch@lemmy.ml 45 points 23 hours ago

Good. I saw an article the other day that kept referring to protesters against Palestinian genocide as “agitators.” They already lost conservatives to thinking mainstream news media was corrupt. Maybe they shouldn’t operate in a way where leftist also abandon them and possibly get hostile like conservatives

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 58 points 23 hours ago
[-] huf@hexbear.net 7 points 9 hours ago

how are they corrupt? they're meant to serve the bourgeoisie and that's what they're doing. there's no corruption here.

[-] med@sh.itjust.works 2 points 15 hours ago

Lots of this is covered in longer form, though still light detail in this video

[-] Docker_84@lemmy.ml 9 points 22 hours ago

Just corrupt ???

[-] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 36 points 23 hours ago

Basically all of mainstream media is owned by the 1%

[-] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 10 points 19 hours ago

This is a point more people need to understand. One thing I would love to see more of is journalist-owned news outlets, ideally in a co-op model (so the writers can agree to bring on, say, editors and photographers as the income warrants it). This is the only way to guard against the wealthy just buying the press and thereby dictating the narrative.

[-] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 4 points 13 hours ago

The problem with small independent media is that they can be shut down by just filing twenty different frivolous cases against them in different parts of the country. You need someone with deep pockets - a major labour union, say, or a trust, backing them.

[-] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 hours ago

Or a coalition of media companies maintaining a legal defense fund.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 23 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Anyone who still doesn't believe the mainstream media is corrupt, will never do so. What's different is that the agenda of its owners seems to have changed from unconditionally supporting and apologizing for Israel to critiquing it.

It's also possible that their numbers dropped so badly that they had to shift gears.

[-] timewarp@lemmy.world 17 points 22 hours ago

The media beforehand:

"Claiming Israel is killing innocent people is antisemitic."

"Claiming Israel is is committing genocide is antisemitic."

"Claiming Israel is starving people is antisemitic."

"Claiming Israel is planning on taking Gaza is antisemitic."

[-] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 15 points 21 hours ago

It’s about time.

[-] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 8 points 19 hours ago

My understanding is that the Israeli economy relies very heavily on US support. If Netanyahu begins to turn away from the US, he’ll have to call on European nations for support, and at least in some places those populations are more aware of and disgusted by the behavior in Gaza. If Israel can’t get other foreign investment to continue propping up their economy, all those Israeli companies that have been attractive investments for the last 4-6 decades are going to tank hard. Along with trumps idiocy, an Israeli collapse could be a complete disaster for the industrialized world.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 21 points 16 hours ago

an Israeli collapse could be a complete disaster for the industrialized world.

And a triumph for humanity

[-] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 16 points 22 hours ago

Israel can't survive without US backing. I'm surprised they're giving it up

[-] GratefullyGodless@lemmy.world -1 points 9 hours ago

I think its pretty obvious what's happening, the media are changing their tune right after an arab country gave Trump a luxury jet as a "gift". Qatar has figured out that Trump can be bought, and through him get the corporate media to follow.

[-] Docker_84@lemmy.ml 14 points 22 hours ago

So they're all waking up finally ???

[-] huquad@lemmy.ml 13 points 17 hours ago

Absolutely not. Probably divested from Israel, so now they can move on to the next thing.

[-] Docker_84@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago
[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 3 points 9 hours ago

Whatever it is, it's going to suck

[-] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Israel is having a Ukraine moment.

Probably for the same reasons: they see that Israel is on a path toward irreversible and unavoidable defeat and want to cut their losses by scraping everything they can while on their way to bail out of the sinking Zionist boat.

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