They don't intend to ban anything. They're just creating reasons to lock people up.
They are, to a man, insane authoritarian shitbags. All they care about is control.
The plan according to project 2025 is to classify trans people existing as pornographic. Wish I was joking. Been warning people about this for a year now.
Anything related to queer identities could fall under obscenity by whatever arbitrary definitions they want to use.
No more pride or rainbow flags, no support groups for queer youth, no sex education, all of that is obscene.
Basically everything they have to say on the subject is thinley veiled homophobia and should be treated as such
so just like Russia
Yup, it’s the typical conservative playbook: If you don’t like something, redefine it as something unpopular. Then target the unpopular thing, so democrats can’t oppose it without inciting “this democrat voted against a bill to protect/stop {sympathetic demographic} from {unpopular thing}” smear campaigns.
Step 1 was equating trans people with sexual predators. You keep that messaging consistent and constant. Find stories of trans people doing normal things, but spin it as if they’re dangerous. Invent stories if you need to, because debunking them takes a lot more time than inventing them…
They weren’t jogging in a neighborhood; they were casing the neighborhood. They weren’t using a public restroom; they were looking for people to sexually assault. They weren’t trying on clothes to see if they fit; they were looking to assault women and children in the changing rooms. They weren’t volunteering for the local women’s shelter; They were looking for defenseless victims. They weren’t writing a book for other trans people; They were indoctrinating kids and trying to turn them trans. Et cetera, et cetera…
Once conservative voters have started to accept that messaging, you move onto step 2:
“This bill will protect children from sexual predators” means it bans trans people from being able to pee.
“This bill will protect children from being exposed to dangerous sexual material” means it bans any kind of trans iconography by labeling it as porn.
“This bill will stop sexual predators from hiding in your neighborhood” means it requires trans people to register in a public database/wear a {pink triangle} badge.
“This bill will ensure sexual predators are kept away from the rest of the population” means it rounds trans people up into camps.
And if anybody ever tries to point out what the bill is really doing, put them on blast with the “radical left is trying to let sexual predators steal your kids and assault your women” messaging.
Remember that the far right has been desperately trying to label any LGBTQ-related content as 'porn'. Educational resources? 'Porn'. Biographies about gay people? 'Porn'. Drag queens? 'Porn'. A book about a boy with two mommies? 'Porn'. Anything that acknowledges the existence of trans people? 'Porn'.
The purpose of this bill isn't to ban porn, it's to ban 'porn'. Anything they don't like will be deemed 'porn', and then this gives them the legal justification to ban whatever they want.
Cancel culture at its finest. Where my free speech absolutists gone?!
They were just bigots?
🔫 Always have been
Friendly reminder that only one party takes rights away.
And that's the party that got all the stupid fucks in our society to think they were the party of freedom.
“Obscenity isn’t protected by the First Amendment, but hazy and unenforceable legal definitions have allowed extreme pornography to saturate American society and reach countless children,” Lee said in a press release. “Our bill updates the legal definition of obscenity for the internet age so this content can be taken down and its peddlers prosecuted.”
My memory is a bit hazy, but I think this phrasing is taken almost verbatim from Project 2025.
They are jumping the gun a little here. Project 2025 has declaring basically anything a transperson does as pornographic first then this. Guess some incompetence in execution shouldn't be surprising from their crowd.
I think the order of operations is almost unimportant if their opposition can only secure minor, temporary victories and nobody is truly stopping them. If anything the broad stroke of this bill could be used as cover while states quietly criminalize homosexuality and transgenderism by fiat.
Obscenity isn’t protected by the First Amendment
Is this the same Constitution that they're pissing on with everything else? It most certainly does protect it. Do NOT use the "think of the children" shit when your actions towards children safety has been the complete opposite. Hell, I saw news today of further cuts being pursued for Medicare, as well as past things on cutting school lunches and of course the destruction of the DoE. You do NOT care about children, do not bring them into this.
Will no one think of the children? Whenever these people say something, the best strategy is look in the opposite direction they are pointing you. In this instance, they are working to pass child-bride full-legalization. They're definitely thinking of the children.
Check this guy's computer first. Guarantee there's some fucked up shit on there. It's always projection.
Mike Lee is a full-blown Mormon, which heavily frowns upon porn in any form (including literal prophetic teachings calling women "walking pornography"), so he absolutely does have porn on his devices.
Source: grew up Mormon, was taught this by leadership
It's part of the plan in Project 2025, to ban pornography and then classify LGBT literature as pornography
The plan is to classify trans people as being pornographic by their very existence.
If you think the porn industry is exploitative and abusive now, just wait until they push it all underground.
Gotta love it how one party steals rights away from Americans and it's always the one party that screams the loudest about "muh rights!" and they're constantly supported by smooth brains who just can't stop talking about "muh rights or you get muh bullets!!".
I'm still waiting for those bullets to fly but smooth brains are occupied now by trump jingeling some keys calls "no trans bathrooms" in front of them so they're a bit busy
Your observation is eternal. During the American Revolution one person noted (I forgot who) that the people who clamoured the loudest for liberty also happened to be the hardest slave drivers.
Even the most oppressive tyrants in history understood the concept of bread and circuses. Most people will stay complacent when their fundamental rights are being taken away as long as they have their distractions. Taking away the distractions is something you only do after you've fully consolidated your power. They're so obsessed with projecting an aura of oppressiveness that they've forgotten how to hold power.
“Party of freedom”, everyone.
freedom to invade your home without a warrant on suspicion for harboring an undesirable.
freedom to live in crushing debt and be forced to work like a dog your whole life.
freedom to buy, freedom to sell.
edit - guess that's what you get when you elect Biff... twice
The American porn industry is as big as Hollywood. This is a big billions of dollars market. And the US porn industry provides 90% of international porn. So Trump and his GOP wants to kill the one last American industry where the US is world market leader by far.
And I can easily see this industry moving to countries where actors are cheaper and less protected from abuse, diseases, and whatever else happening in this industry.
While this will make some religious fundamentalists in the US feel superior and give them a sense of a perceived moral high ground, it will actually hurt the most vulnerable people in the chain the most. It will not reduce the amount of porn made, it will just make it much, much worse for those involved.
Under the bill, content would be considered obscene if it appeals to prurient interests in nudity
And since they've already taken away due process, they're basically paving the way to send anyone who has a body they don't like to a death camp. I don't think it's hyperbole anymore to say that that US is fucked.
Republicans: “We have learned nothing from prohibition and refuse to try!”
I feel like my teenage son is about to become an activist
USA has the biggest porn industry in the world, doesn’t it?
100%. Porn is what pushed the development of e-commerce and credit card payments online.
What they WILL get is eID laws as a result, and the total lack of privacy online.
Okay so previously I would’ve thought this is performative with no chance of it passing. However states have already passed laws that require proving ID to sites like pornhub before you can access and I am SHOCKED that they did it.
People in these areas are either using VPN, verifying an account with pornhub, or just not using pornhub. All 3 of which would be absolutely surprises to me but it’s gotta be one of them, right?
Brought to you by a president who f****d a pornstar and paid her off by falsifying business records.
Clown world for a clown species.
”I'm fairly sure if they took porn off the internet, there'd only be one website left, and it'd be called ’Bring back the porn!’ ” - Dr Cox
My question is what defines pornography? Will museums have to cloak statues of naked people? Remove a renaissance era painting because of boobs? How about a movie that has tasteful nudity? Or just ads for Victoria Secret?
Anything they disapprove of.
Oh wow, I hope they do it. Nothing is going to upset the MAGA crowd faster than losing access to the trans pornography they view in the privacy of their own homes while condemning publicly. I'd imagine a lot of them are not going to understand VPN.
You know what's crazy? The part about feeling shame. There's been some recent studies about a lot of previously diagnosed sex/porn disorders and addictions being tied to shame due to misinformed religious conservative upbringing. If anything, we need to be talking about and teaching more about sex. Not learning about it correctly leads to hangups and shame about the human body, love, and self love that makes you nearly incapable of showing or expressing yourself correctly. That's why all these conservatives are so fucking weird.
It would be for 10 hours, then Trump would remove the bill and be seen as an hero. As usual.
Sending people to El Salvador is much easier when you make everyone a criminal.
So we gonna have people in the corner selling uncensored like in japan?
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