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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

If the Democratic Party does not wish to do the right thing even after they have been begged to by some people, then I think it's time for us to consider punishing them and showing them, in action, you're going to lose the election. We're going to make sure you lose.

Minnesota has a lot of politicians willing to stand up to genociders, and agrees with the Dem voting base on a much wider range of issues.

Over the last six months, Minnesota Democrats enshrined abortion rights, established paid family and medical leave, restored the voting rights of ex-felons, extended voting access, invested $1 billion into affordable housing, imposed background checks on private gun transfers, initiated a red-flag warning system that confiscates firearms from those judicially deemed a threat to themselves or others, legalized recreational marijuana, created a refuge program for trans people denied gender-affirming care in other states, mandated that utilities go carbon-free by 2040, provided a refundable tax credit (i.e., cash aid) to low-income households with children, prohibited non-compete clauses in labor contracts, barred employers from holding compulsory anti-union meetings, strengthened workplace protections for meatpacking and Amazon workers, empowered teachers unions to bargain over educator-to-student ratios, empaneled a statewide board to set minimum labor standards for nursing-home workers, directed $2.58 billion into improved infrastructure, made school breakfast and lunch free from all Minnesota K-through-12 students, and increased taxes on corporations and high earners, among other things.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/06/why-are-minnesota-democrats-so-progressive.html

They were able to make it to the general because the Minnesota state Dem party didn't put their finger on the scales.

As of February the old chair for Minnesota is now the chair of the national DNC.

So...

Keep pressuring the DNC, but for fucks sake I wish people understood we already fought the battles and won the war over the party.

A neutral DNC that won't pick sides means no one will be holding progressives back.

We don't need to be yelling at the DNC right now we need to be informing voter that shit has changed already.

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

A reconciliation starts with admitting you fucked up and apologizing.

Especially for helping get a literal fascist elected.

[-] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 months ago

Biden & Harris did more to get Trump elected than every protest voter combined, your priorities are fucked

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago

Cool. Admit that no democrat has any business supporting the genocide that centrists loved so dearly that they were willing to risk another trump term rather than abandon it.

Remember, the people you are blaming now weren't worth listening to at the time, presumably because their names aren't netanyahu or cheney.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 5 points 2 months ago

Your guy got elected, the genocide is over now, right?

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

trump is not my guy.

netanyahu is yours.

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Aww... Have the day you didn't vote for and really enjoy that Trump term you wanted.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I voted for harris. Unlike you, I did it in spite of the genocide support, not because of it.

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Sure you did buddy, sure you did.

And honestly aren't you just an presumptuous jackass. Just because one doesn't spout off about all Democrats are pro genocide day in and day fucking out doesn't mean one is actively got "Go genocide, go!" And is all about dat Israeli war crime.

You just go on not voting and letting perfection and single issue voting be the enemy of good. I'll continue to vote how I've always been voting and being critical of Democrats while acknowledging Republican Nazis are never the right choice.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Sure you did buddy

Genocide apologists are not my buddies.

Just because one doesn’t spout off about all Democrats are pro genocide day in and day fucking out doesn’t mean one is actively got “Go genocide, go!” And was all about dat Israeli war crime.

Anyone who sees opposition to genocide support within the democratic party and immediately shrieks "trumper" is absolutely all about genocide and nothing else.

You just go on not voting and letting perfection and single issue voting be the enemy of good. I’ll continue to vote how I’ve always been voting and being critical of Democrats

The only democrats for whom you have any criticism are those that don't like your genocide.

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago

Uh huh. Sure buddy, sure. Just keep telling yourself those ugly little lies.

[-] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Pure projection

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

As I previously said, genocide apologists are not my buddies. I get it. I'm not netanyahu so you aren't listening.

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago
[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Anyone who thinks that genocide support is an acceptable position for any party is wrong. Genocide isn't a moral gray area. Genocide is wrong, regardless of who is enabling it.

[-] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

You don't give a shit how many innocent people die in palestine or anywhere else, as long as it doesn't affect you it's fine

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 months ago

You had me in the first part, not gonna lie. But then I see that you are perfectly fine with unquestioning support of Israel.

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago
[-] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 months ago

You don't give a shit how many innocent people die in palestine or anywhere else, as long as it doesn't affect you it's fine

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The fact that you conflate saying voting for and advocating for harm reduction equates to cheerleading for genocide show how disingenuous you are and how no one can have a serious discussion with you.

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

You weren't voting for harm reduction and you probably never have in your entire life. If you vote for capitalists, that isn't harm reduction.

[-] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago

The democrats offered exactly zero "harm reduction" for palestine, the only harm you care about reducing is to yourself and you know it

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Too fucking late, innit.

[-] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 months ago

This really pisses me off

The whole thing conservatives do is to pit those they want to control against each other, and too many people fall for it with enthusiasm

America is a fucking stupid country

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