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[-] Skyrmir@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago

If the government comes for me, they're bringing more people than I can shoot. The first answer to that, is to prevent that from happening through political action. The second is that you don't respond to that with a gun.

Everyone on Ruby ridge was armed, everyone in Waco was armed. They're all dead for their troubles. A gun won't fix that problem.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca -2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It's not about the reality of defending yourself from tyranny with homicide. It's about the psychological comfort that the warped fantasy brings.

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[-] cattywampas@lemm.ee 99 points 1 week ago

Leftists with guns: this is fine

[-] Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 70 points 1 week ago

Yeah no shit buddy. It's come to that point. I like you Pete, but don't bury your head in the sand on this one. American soldiers defend fascism.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 week ago

I like you Pete

Why, though? He's a Neoliberal proponent of Reaganomics Lite and McKinsey grad (but I repeat myself) who keeps failing upwards.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 25 points 1 week ago

Nah, every time pete pops up it's something stupid that makes me like him less and less.

[-] blackluster117@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

They're talking about how this tweet is from 2018. Different situation then.

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[-] nsrxn@scribe.disroot.org 15 points 1 week ago
[-] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

No, we knew it was fascism then too.

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[-] Pogogunner@sopuli.xyz 53 points 1 week ago

Of course this is what it means. The people who wrote down this existing right had done the same to their equivalents. It's not a fantasy.

[-] Gronk@aussie.zone 41 points 1 week ago

Oh yeah the very nice police force that has absolutely not been systematically trained to shoot first and ask questions later when things go south?

[-] Alteon@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If they are willing to defend facism and defend a dictator....then what's the problem?

At some point your "I'm just doing my job" becomes, "I support an American dictatorship.". Do you not have morals? Your "job" has now become antithetical to the American Democratic Ethos - you are now a de facto traitor to your country. Last I checked, traitors are an enemy of the state.

....so again, what's the problem?

[-] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

then they came for the civilians. And I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a civilian.

Yeah Thomas Mann's poem is still relevant and more people need to read it and understand it.

If you "only follow commands", you are still implicated in every action. If you are a cop you are literally one of the checks in the system of checks and balances.

[-] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 week ago

American Democratic Ethos

Not sure which slaveholders or Manifest Destiny folks you’re putting on a pedestal, but even if—big if—America’s dead once had admirable and pro-humanity values, today’s terrified, uneducated, unhappy, unkind, impoverished shithole does not.

Being an awful person appears to reflect perfectly these last generations of the American Empire.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Democrats will happily disarm everyone and hand the keys to the nation to the Republicans. The recent exhaltation of David Hogg in the party is proof. Not even January 6th 2021 will change their minds, they will never stop on their anti gun crusade.

The justice system is not meant to protect us as we can all plainly see. We are on our own.

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[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago

If you ever bought a gun because you thought you would use it to kill the people you hate the most, stop and consider that I am one of those people

[-] Almacca@aussie.zone 31 points 1 week ago

It seems to be the only cure for fascism, sadly.

[-] Pistcow@lemm.ee 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

stop, I can only get so erect

[-] NewDark@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago

Oh right! Guess I should just let cops and military do whatever they want because they have the special American pass.

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[-] thepenismightier@lemm.ee 22 points 1 week ago

What's disgusting? Union busting.

[-] qarbone@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Why are we punching a strawman made out of a 7 year old tweet? Get something more current of his to spit on.

Not even getting into how this can more squarely be aimed at GOPers who profess to love the cops and love the troops, but love the 2nd just as much. The article specifically about defending yourself from troops and cops.

Edit: swapped in "GOPers" bc sophistry

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[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago

Is that even happening? Considered US police and various letter agencies are basically at the level of open warfare against the population i would imagine population of such a liberty loving country would fight back...

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[-] deforestgump@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago
[-] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 week ago

Something something kill or be killed

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