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No one would have been in trouble if they were married. In Oklahoma, there are no age restrictions for marriage. An adult can marry a toddler if they want. Child marriage is a long-standing conservative tradition, unfortunately.
No one would have been in trouble if they were married
Would being married actually nullify age of consent laws though?
Genuinely asking.
Yes they do and to a cheryy on top. It does not grant the child the right to sign othet contracts. So they have to get permission to hire a divorce lawyer. American law, American order at it's finest
Even with the lawyer they need permission for the divorce. Running away is often their only choice to avoid being constantly raped by an old man. In the USA. In 2023. https://www.unchainedatlast.org/united-states-child-marriage-problem-study-findings-april-2021/
Thats what i was saying
Wtf I did not know it went to new levels of horribleness
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Most consent laws used to be written so that marriage would be an exception. Whether Oklahomas have or not is a toss up, but given that they didn’t add a lower limit on marriage age, I’d guess they haven’t updated many of those laws in a while.
Yes. If they were married, the sex would be legal.
That's seriously fucked up. Even for the US.
I grew up in the south surrounded by conservatives. They absolutely don't see the problem with it. Conservatives see all straight same-race weddings as "traditional marriage" which is "sanctified by god", which transcends age and man's law.
I disagree with the no age restrictions statement. That makes it sound like there are no restrictions. According to , in Oklahoma, you have to be 18 to get married, 16 with a parent's permission, and any age under 16 requires a court order.
I can't imagine a use for court ordered marriage that would result in anything good.
Q:How did ma ma and pa pa meet?
A:our relationship was Court Ordered.
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How do you have an entire fucking family show up for a baby shower and not one god damn person says a thing? How do these people show up at a hospital with a pregnant 12 year old thinking this was going to have a happy ending?
That's some George Costanza shit right there. "Was I not supposed to impregnate 12 year olds? Because I had no idea. I mean if someone had told me that was frowned on around here, I never would've done it."
The rapist was at the hospital for delivery and proudly told everyone he was the dad, even the police that the hospital called...
Cops said even after he was in the cop car he didn't understand why he was being arrested.
It’s god’s plan!
Source: uncle is a Christian fundie
REPUBLICANS is how
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After reading the title, I did not expect this to get even more fucked up
Miranda-Jara was initially in a relationship with the girl's mother but when things soured between the two, mom allowed Miranda-Jara to move on to her then-12-year-old daughter. Eventually, they would begin living together as a couple
That is fuckin’ WILD. Holy shit.
RAPE! She helped him RAPE!
GET THE FUCKING HEADLINES CORRECT.
A 12 year old did not "get pregnant by grown man." She was FUCKING RAPED!
Holy shit, it implies the issue here was the getting pregnant. There's a little something that occurred before that and it was called RAPE!
I would also point out the human trafficking by pimping out your own child. Really need some sort of extra charge for that one, something about abusing a position of power.
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I'm not sure whether the rape or the non-consentual pregnancy and forced birth is worse...
Then there's the fate of the child born to the kind of monster that would pay to do this...
I read this article about an underage marriage, and while it explains how they get to that point in a more specific way, these are still men who rape children incapable of consent. No matter how you slice it, it's rape.
The last sentence is a punch in the gut.
"The girl's father was in prison for a separate sex crime and has no involvement in his daughter's life, Tulsa Police told FOX23 News at the time of the incident."
Yeah that girl is an orphan AND a mother. Fuck.
This is obviously disturbing and disgusting. But, are we not going to talk about those eyebrows?
Juggalette
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How is this going to work out legally for the girl and her baby? The girl isn’t even old enough to have her own bank account. Is she old enough to make parental decisions for her baby? Will the state take the baby away from her?
As terrible as it is, I wonder if that might be for the best.
The State will take the baby. I guess there are no good outcomes here. I expect both children are currently in care.
Yeah, a “good” outcome is unrealistic. I think the best we can hope for is the “least terrible” outcome.
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From the many times I've seen this type of incident on the news (unfortunately), they usually place the baby in the care of relatives first if possible.
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Give her the book for what she did to her child
And add time for those eyebrows
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There are literally hundreds of child marriages in the US every year.
Which all need to stop unless they fall under Romeo and Juliet laws.
Honestly as unpopular as it is for me to say.., those need to be stopped too.. no one should be getting married as teens when they can't vote or sign a contract legally....
Romeo and Juliet laws are fine for consent purposes, but yeah... They can wait for marriage until they're both adults.
Too many weird ways that people can technically get away with selling children.
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The girl's father was in prison for a separate sex crime and has no involvement in his daughter's life, Tulsa Police told FOX23 News at the time of the incident.
so i guess that explains why she was comfortable with allowing an adult to rape her daughter. these are the kind of men she dates.
NOAH
GET THE MOTHER FUCKING BOAT
"one of the most bizarre sex crimes in recent Tulsa history" is a pretty specific statement and makes that city sound terrible.
This is quite messed up. I understand the decision to charge her.
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